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But I still buy the game, that's what I don't get. You people using that as an excuse to not buy the game, dangit just because you got it from a torrent and have a cracked exe doesn't mean someone has a gun to your head saying don't buy the game. BUY THE DANM GAME, we all know how to get around their pain in the a$$ DRM's so that is no excuse.

Ok, think of it this way, you get a game by torrent, yes the store has the original now but that creates a surplus of stock which means their supply is higher than the demand. No simple economics should answer the rest for you. Higher supply and low demand equals no sales and way less profit. Hhmm, if I have a company do I want to just barely make money or do I want to MAKE MONEY?? These Devs aren't making these games JUST for fun!!!!!!
I buy all my games, my operation systems, all my software. I even bought Vista, i'm one of the 3 people i know who actually bought Vista. Then 8 or so who pirated it and told me i got ripped off. I like knowing all my software is legit.
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post #82 of 89
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This is getting stupid... why can't you people determine the difference
between stealing and replication...

In the criminal law, theft (also known as stealing) is the illegal taking of
another person's property (Please note the word property!!!) without that
person's freely-given consent.

Replication may be defined as a duplicate copy of similar data on the same or
a different platform

Pirating fits the definition of replication, as stealing refers to physicaly taking
something that dosen't belong to you. A good analigy to show this would be...
watching a movie on your TV, and recording it... Your not taking the actual
tape the movie was being played off of, but your creating a copy of that show
onto another tape that you own.

And that makes it all ok right

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I buy all my games, my operation systems, all my software. I even bought Vista, i'm one of the 3 people i know who actually bought Vista. Then 8 or so who pirated it and told me i got ripped off. I like knowing all my software is legit.
I hear ya, same here, speaking in general didn't mean to directly say you
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post #83 of 89
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Originally Posted by Wrapper View Post
This is getting stupid... why can't you people determine the difference
between stealing and replication...

In the criminal law, theft (also known as stealing) is the illegal taking of
another person's property (Please note the word property!!!) without that
person's freely-given consent.

Replication may be defined as a duplicate copy of similar data on the same or
a different platform

Pirating fits the definition of replication, as stealing refers to physicaly taking
something that dosen't belong to you. A good analigy to show this would be...
watching a movie on your TV, and recording it... Your not taking the actual
tape the movie was being played off of, but your creating a copy of that show
onto another tape that you own.


Yeah sure downloading stuff isnt illegal (in uk) its just the distribution of the content that is illegal. I guess the reason people disagree on this is to do with the lack of certainty when dealing with intellectual "property", its not really something humans have had to deal with before...
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post #84 of 89
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I hear ya, same here, speaking in general didn't mean to directly say you
I learned the hard way you have to be careful how you use the words "you people."
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post #85 of 89
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Originally Posted by Wrapper View Post
This is getting stupid... why can't you people determine the difference
between stealing and replication...

In the criminal law, theft (also known as stealing) is the illegal taking of
another person's property (Please note the word property!!!) without that
person's freely-given consent.

Replication may be defined as a duplicate copy of similar data on the same or
a different platform

Pirating fits the definition of replication, as stealing refers to physicaly taking
something that dosen't belong to you. A good analigy to show this would be...
watching a movie on your TV, and recording it... Your not taking the actual
tape the movie was being played off of, but your creating a copy of that show
onto another tape that you own.
Perhaps that's why ownership of cultural objects like software and music is enforced via copyright law, not criminal law. Copyrights are violated by an unapproved replication of said objects. The unconsented-to replication is one less transaction that benefits the copyright owner (who is originally, and ideally, the creator). That's a tangible damage, and a disincentive to create.
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I learned the hard way you have to be careful how you use the words "you people."
Yea, I was just in the middle of a rant mood I usually am a bit careful on not calling anyone specific out.

Just aggrevates me that people think that pirating doesn't effect the industry.
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post #87 of 89
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Jesus christ.

The developers work for years to produce their product so that you can buy it and they can make money for their work. You take it without paying. How is that not wrong?
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post #88 of 89
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Jesus christ.

The developers work for years to produce their product so that you can buy it and they can make money for their work. You take it without paying. How is that not wrong?
Some are trying to justify what can't be justified. They can make all the long winded posts about how they "think" copyright law/ property law works all they want. The simply fact is, making a back-up copy for yourself is fine. Making a cracked copy to share on P2P network is wrong and in the United States at least it's illegal and for the record. Making a copy or two of a Game,Music CD or DVD for a buddy is illegal as well. That's why there is a warning at the being of every movie out there.
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post #89 of 89
To those saying they would just copy expensive software, if you don't think the software is worth purchasing, don't buy it. That doesn't justify the copy of it and by the way, piracy is known as intellectual theft.

I'm not saying I've never downloaded illegal music, but that doesn't mean I endorse it.
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