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Hi!

I'm planning to build a Intel-NVidia based high-end PC from the very best components.

First, I want to know if they still are the very best components.
Here they are (if you have any better components to suggest please post):

Processor - Intel QX9770
Motherboard - eVGA 790i Ultra SLI
Memory - 4x 2GB Corsair DDR3 1600 MHz (Twin3X4096-1600C7DHX)
Graphics Card - 2x eVGA GeForce 9800 GX2
Sound Card - Auzentech X-Fi Prelude
Performance Hard Drive - 2x WD VelociRaptor (RAID 0, 10k RPM, 300GB, 3GB/sec, SATA)
Storage Hard Drive - Seagate Barracuda 1TB
PSU - Thermaltake Toughpower 1500W - W0218
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post #2 of 49
What are you doing for cooling? Air, water, etc?

Also, I would wait until the 9900 series comes out. That's only about two months.

Oh, and what case?
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post #3 of 49
Weak spots are the hard drives and the PSU.

If you want the BEST, you'd have to go 15k SAS.

Two of these:
Fujitsu MBA3300RC 300GB 15000 RPM Serial Attached SCSI (SAS) Hard Drive - OEM
And a controller card like this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16816151023

It's about $1,600 for the hard drives and controller card, but heck, you said you wanted the best

And I like this Silverstone PSU, for a mere $400:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817256038

And indeed... do wait for the next gen GPUs. The 9800GX2 in Quad SLI doesn't scale very well, and if you insist on buying RIGHT NOW, a pair of 8800Ultra's might be a better choice.
    
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post #4 of 49
Quote:
Originally Posted by JPSarapuu View Post
Processor - Intel QX9770
Motherboard - eVGA 790i Ultra SLI
Memory - 4x 2GB Corsair DDR3 1600 MHz (Twin3X4096-1600C7DHX)
Graphics Card - 2x eVGA GeForce 9800 GX2
Sound Card - Auzentech X-Fi Prelude
Performance Hard Drive - 2x WD VelociRaptor (RAID 0, 10k RPM, 300GB, 3GB/sec, SATA)
Storage Hard Drive - Seagate Barracuda 1TB
PSU - Thermaltake Toughpower 1500W - W0218
Virutally unlimited budget i take it?

Processor - Thats the best of the best

Motherboard - Very good choice. I've seen the asus SIIE (also 790i) in 3 different computers now, and it hasnt worked properly on a single one.

Memory - OCZ DDR3-2000 is better

Graphics Card - What you picked is theoretically the best, but because of buggy drivers two 8800Ultras may perform better in some games.

Sound Card - Good choice. You could also opt for professional quality sound cards, but those don't provide EAX. But unless you have a stereo system equally as expensive as this computer you won't hear much of a difference.

Hard drive - You should definately invest in a seperate controller card. If you want almost the best without going overboard, get this. If you want something more reasonable, get this. Also, why stop at only TWO velociraptors? You could get 4 or more and then short stroke them - force them to only use the beginning of the drives, which increases seek speed AND average transfer speeds.

Storage drive - That ones fine. But if you really want to ensure that you don't lose data, get a third drive as an external eSATA for backups.

EDIT: forgot the PSU - That one is actually bad. This PC-Power and Cooling one is about the best you can get. The only catch is you might want to change the fans out for quieter ones, or hook them up to a fan controller.
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post #5 of 49
Just as others have said, wait for the 9900 series of nVidia cards to come out and SLI two of the highest end ones from that series. As for the other components, what are you cooling with? I would suggest phase change if you really wanna get intense, but water would still be pretty rockin in that setup as well.
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Originally Posted by Manyak View Post
Virutally unlimited budget i take it?

Processor - Thats the best of the best
Motherboard - Very good choice. I've seen the asus SIIE (also 790i) in 3 different computers now, and it hasnt worked properly on a single one.
Memory - OCZ DDR3-2000 is better
Graphics Card - What you picked is theoretically the best, but because of buggy drivers two 8800Ultras may perform better in some games.
Sound Card - Good choice. You could also opt for professional quality sound cards, but those don't provide EAX. But unless you have a stereo system equally as expensive as this computer you won't hear much of a difference.

Hard drive - You should definately invest in a seperate controller card. If you want almost the best without going overboard, get this. If you want something more reasonable, get this. Also, why stop at only TWO velociraptors? You could get 4 or more and then short stroke them - force them to only use the beginning of the drives, which increases seek speed AND average transfer speeds.

Storage drive - That ones fine. But if you really want to ensure that you don't lose data, get a third drive as an external eSATA for backups.

EDIT: forgot the PSU - That one is actually bad. This PC-Power and Cooling one is about the best you can get. The only catch is you might want to change the fans out for quieter ones, or hook them up to a fan controller.
Totally agree on the separate controller card, from what I hear the onboard Nvidia RAID is teh sucks. More velociraptors is a good idea too. Although I don't really understand the reasoning behind the eSATA, if it is just next to the PC then what difference does it make? Hopefully the 9800GX2's could be stepped up to two 9900GX2's when they come out and that is a good improvement, but totally agree that drivers are an issue, hopefully Nvidia improves them soon. PC P&C 1200w fo sho! I believe the root problem with the Asus Nvidia 7 series is their non-reference designs. On the DDR3, i'd like to know where your getting your info, I haven't seen many opinions on different DDR3 modules, especially the high end and would like to inform myself. Overall, Great Advice!
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post #7 of 49
Lol, phase change, we are getting hardcore now! I say we kick it up a notch and go for liquid nitrogen!
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post #8 of 49
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Originally Posted by EmerilLIVE View Post
Although I don't really understand the reasoning behind the eSATA, if it is just next to the PC then what difference does it make?...............On the DDR3, i'd like to know where your getting your info, I haven't seen many opinions on different DDR3 modules, especially the high end and would like to inform myself. Overall, Great Advice!
The reason for the external drive is simply for safety. Say he goes water cooling and something leaks on his hard drives. Or his PSU explodes and his PC goes up in flames. A box for an external drive only costs like $20, and with eSATA the performance is identical to having it internally. So why not.

As far as the DDR3 Modules, at the moment they are all pretty much equal when rated at the same speed. The overclocking difference between one DDR3-1600 and another DDR3-1600 is negligible (excluding the really cheap stuff). At the moment there are only two sets of ram rated for DDR3-2000, one being OCZ and the other being Crucial. The difference is that Crucial's sticks cost over twice as much as OCZs, thats all. Its not like any DDR3 motherboard right now is going to go very far over 500FSB anyway. At least not without some crazy cooling.

But all in all, expect DDR3-1333 ram to get to about 1500-1550, 1600 gets to about 1700-1750, etc.
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What? No Skulltrail?
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i have a "feeling" that this whole build is theoritical and will never get past a word document titled "my super duper computer/christmas list" and after his mom says no is scraped. but its all just a feeling if not mr moneybags is going to have one nice computer.
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