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Just as a clarification the iPod will support FLAC and many other formats through the use of Rockbox firmware.

I've had it installed for a while now and love how customizable everything is. The bundled apps and games are awesome!

http://build.rockbox.org/
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I get this skip sound on the first second when I play .flac in VLC media player. Otherwise it plays well.
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I get this skip sound on the first second when I play .flac in VLC media player. Otherwise it plays well.
Use foobar2k or JRiver Jukebox.
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you should put a pic up for a WAVE format, 24bit 96khz ftw
Is irrelevant when ripping from a CD because the format from a CD is 16bit and 44.1khz.
Maybe you ment it differently but if thats how you're ripping music then you're wasting probaly twice as much hardrive space.
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so question? y is this awesoem guide in the software and coding section? It should be in the audio and soundcards by my watch... or in the off topic somewhere...
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so question? y is this awesoem guide in the software and coding section? It should be in the audio and soundcards by my watch... or in the off topic somewhere...
Ill get it moved.

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With respect, I'm a bit dubious about this statement. Do you have any proof to support it? Everything I've read about people being able to tell different MP3 versions apart shows that, actually, the majority can't tell the difference. Certainly, most people can't tell the difference between 320kbps MP3 and lossless, based on what I've read anyway.
No proof on that, all my friends can hear a difference between them, including myself.. Most people I talk to that listen to music alot can as well. I guess I just assumed most people could hear the difference.

I removed the sentence from the post.
Edited by Murlocke - 5/13/08 at 2:00am
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I don't mind listening to MP3s on my iPod or in my car since usually it's just background music at those times. For more serious listening times I'll load up my FLAC hard drive, or for EQ'ing a room I always go with a CD I keep a collection primarily of FLAC, 320kb MP3s, and 128kb AAC. The difference between lossy and lossless are night and day to most trained ears. It always baffles me how many DJs will use MP3s.
 
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Nice guide 'locke.

Being a heavy supporter of FLAC and EAC, I might add this little tidbit -

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Buy the standard cd's and rip them yourself using Exact Audio Copy.

It's absurdly simple to setup and begin ripping if you use this guide.
It took me literally 5 minutes to get EAC setup for compressing to FLAC using this guide.

As for the difference between lossy and lossless, it is very much dependent on the listener and the equipment being used. With my soundcard/speakers, the format was irrelevant. With my DAC/amp/headphones, I ended up ignoring the large portion of my collection that was ripped in lossy. The improved transparency/detail was rather astounding. It is unfortunate that lossy has become such a popular medium for music, when it is generally rubbish compared to lossless redbooks and vinyl.
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Nice guide 'locke.

Being a heavy supporter of FLAC and EAC, I might add this little tidbit -



It took me literally 5 minutes to get EAC setup for compressing to FLAC using this guide.

As for the difference between lossy and lossless, it is very much dependent on the listener and the equipment being used. With my soundcard/speakers, the format was irrelevant. With my DAC/amp/headphones, I ended up ignoring the large portion of my collection that was ripped in lossy. The improved transparency/detail was rather astounding. It is unfortunate that lossy has become such a popular medium for music, when it is generally rubbish compared to lossless redbooks and vinyl.

Edit - just discovered that the old guide I used is no longer available. This one looks pretty decent. FLAC's documentation page also features 3-4 more links to guides.
Oops, forgot to put in what rippers to use. I don't use EAC because its harder to tag songs and it seems to be insane with how much it checks to see if it is EXACT. I use Easy CD-DA Extractor, with CRC checking and verfying, as well as the highest error correction quality, I feel that its plenty. It also uses accurate rip.
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Oops, forgot to put in what rippers to use. I don't use EAC because its harder to tag songs and it seems to be insane with how much it checks to see if it is EXACT. I use Easy CD-DA Extractor, with CRC checking and verfying, as well as the highest error correction quality, I feel that its plenty. It also uses accurate rip.
I love how thorough EAC is - I've ripped plenty of disks that were practically unreadable by the amount of scratches, etc. The error correction is dead-useful, especially if you're looking to borrow disks from friends whom may have not treated them very well previously.

Also, I re-edited my first post. I found the guide, it had just been moved around a little bit.
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