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post #21 of 35
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Originally Posted by bowman View Post
t4ct1c47, AMD hasn't had an FSB for years, we're still overclocking just fine. You're still altering the bus speed that gets multiplied to determine the CPU clock, it's just a different bus with a different design, construction and name.
I understand what you're refering to: HyperTransport.

However, the internal CPU bus is seperate from the bus that is used to communicate with the memory and I/O devices. For example, a stock Athlon X2 may operate at 200Mhz and yet the Hypertransport link between the CPU and internal devices runs at 2000Mhz. Intel plans to combine these two bus's together and that is why the CPU bus has to fall in line with the new main system bus.
post #22 of 35
Intel are on thin ice if they do this...I think all in all its a bad move.

This may play nicely into AMD's hands.
post #23 of 35
None of you guys have a clue do you?
post #24 of 35
It's very simple, and likely won't bother us if it does come true. Bloomfield will likely coincide with the market that's currently buying C2Q's and P35/X38 motherboards anyway. The lower end parts, that may receive the lockout, will likely be the cheapest (celeron equivalents) with integrated graphics chips designated for the corporate buyers that buy 100 machines at one time and are only focused on the bottom line. NOW this might cause a solution for HTPC or SFF PC buyers who might see options limited by scarce 1366 mATX motherboards, but for the mainstream enthusiast there will be affordable processor/ motherboard pairings which still allow overclocking.

Tl;dr: Intel's not doing this, not as you envision anyway.

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None of you guys have a clue do you?
Obviously not
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It's not going to be the downfall of Intel, enthusiasts like ourselfs hold a very very tiny percentage of the market. I mean really..........small.
Not true at all man. Companies like Corsair have pretty much been built on the backs of enthusiast builders. If this manages to completely turn the enthusiast market against intel, it would have a significant dent in their sales.
    
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this is just such BS. atleast amd knows how to treat its overclockers. intel is too professional. its stupid.
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This puts a lot of pressure on AMD to give us a viable alternative to this foolishness.
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Q6600 isn't high end. Last time I checked, it's intel's lowest end quad core
"high end" to intel is the extreme edition processors that cost $1000+ like the QX6850
He said "I consider" it to be high end. And I agree with him. My Q6600 clocked @ 3.8ghz totally pwnz the so called "high end" Qx6850. Before you say anything, this is Extreme Systems, consider that.
    
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Not true at all man. Companies like Corsair have pretty much been built on the backs of enthusiast builders. If this manages to completely turn the enthusiast market against intel, it would have a significant dent in their sales.
Sorry mate but you don't know what your talking about. let me point you to valves hardware survey-

http://www.steampowered.com/status/survey.html


Also let me elaborate on the findings.

4% of people have quad cores.
2.85% have CPU's clocked 3.3 Ghz to 3.69 Ghz
0.27% have CPU's clocked 3.7 Ghz and above

Nuff said.
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Sorry mate but you don't know what your talking about. let me point you to valves hardware survey-

http://www.steampowered.com/status/survey.html


Also let me elaborate on the findings.

4% of people have quad cores.
2.85% have CPU's clocked 3.3 Ghz to 3.69 Ghz
0.27% have CPU's clocked 3.7 Ghz and above

Nuff said.
What you say is true. But one of the reasons Dell started shipping their computers with AMD was because of their reputation among the enthusiast. It was the same reason that they ship with Intel. We may make up a small percentage of the market but we have the power to change the perception about a product. It's called aspirational marketing. For example, we all know people aren't going to buy Toyota's super cars. So why make them? Because they increase the sales of the other cars as it shows off Toyota's engineering prowess. Similarly, if Intel loses their position it could have dire consequences on the average consumer.

Some of you may suggest that the majority of Intel's share is in the corporate market. True, but I don't think any company wants to concede the enthusiast share either. This is the market that provides feedback to them.

At the end of the day, Intel's profit gains from the extreme edition processors (which will undoubtedly be fairly small) will be offset by the fact that for less than $300, there is nothing for the average enthusiast overclocker. It will be likely then, that this site will have a few more phenoms
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