Overclock.net › Forums › Industry News › Software News › [ARS] Preparing for cyber warfare: US Air Force floats botnet plan
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

[ARS] Preparing for cyber warfare: US Air Force floats botnet plan - Page 3

post #21 of 25
Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterBillyQuizBoy View Post
This has severe 3rd amendment implications.

What is the definition of "peacetime" ?

Are bots considered soldiers? Are American's PC's considered houses? Regardless, the bot "soldiers" would be "quartered" in a PC within a house. I'd venture to say that if they do this without our consent, it's a severe 3rd amendment violation. The key is, in peacetime.

Technically we are "at war" right now, so they say. They could be infecting us, RIGHT NOW!!! Gaahhh!

I doubt this will happen.

Bot's aren't soldiers since they are not autonomous. They are a tool. Now, is the government allowed to store a weapon in your home?
Once again...
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 920 [4.28GHz, HT] Asus P6T + Broadcom NetXtreme II VisionTek HD5850 [900/1200] + Galaxy GT240 2x4GB G.Skill Ripjaw X [1632 MHz] 
Hard DriveOSMonitorKeyboard
Intel X25-M 160GB + 3xRAID0 500GB 7200.12 Window 7 Pro 64 Acer H243H + Samsung 226BW XARMOR-U9BL  
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Antec Truepower New 750W Li Lian PC-V2100 [10x120mm fans] Logitech G9 X-Trac Pro 
  hide details  
Reply
Once again...
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 920 [4.28GHz, HT] Asus P6T + Broadcom NetXtreme II VisionTek HD5850 [900/1200] + Galaxy GT240 2x4GB G.Skill Ripjaw X [1632 MHz] 
Hard DriveOSMonitorKeyboard
Intel X25-M 160GB + 3xRAID0 500GB 7200.12 Window 7 Pro 64 Acer H243H + Samsung 226BW XARMOR-U9BL  
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Antec Truepower New 750W Li Lian PC-V2100 [10x120mm fans] Logitech G9 X-Trac Pro 
  hide details  
Reply
post #22 of 25
Quote:
Originally Posted by DuckieHo View Post
Bot's aren't soldiers since they are not autonomous. They are a tool. Now, is the government allowed to store a weapon in your home?
I thought bots were autonomous, hence the name "bots" and "zombies"

You set em loose and they do their thing, like a virus? I'm no expert so correct me if I'm wrong.

The 3rd amendment says the govt. cannot force it's citizens to house soldiers in their homes during peacetime. I'm not sure about being forced to store weapons.

It's all semantics and whether or not we are at peace or war. James Madison probably never imagined anything like this. We probably need a cyber bill of rights or something.
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
FX-6300 MSI 990FXA Gaming Two XFX R9 270X Kingston HyperX Blue 8GB 1600mhz 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Kingston SSD Western Digital Blue Generic CD/DVD Corsair H100i 
OSMonitorPowerCase
Windows 7 Professional x64 LG 34UM68-P Corsair RM750 Antec P-100 
  hide details  
Reply
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
FX-6300 MSI 990FXA Gaming Two XFX R9 270X Kingston HyperX Blue 8GB 1600mhz 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Kingston SSD Western Digital Blue Generic CD/DVD Corsair H100i 
OSMonitorPowerCase
Windows 7 Professional x64 LG 34UM68-P Corsair RM750 Antec P-100 
  hide details  
Reply
post #23 of 25
Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterBillyQuizBoy View Post
I thought bots were autonomous, hence the name "bots" and "zombies"

You set em loose and they do their thing, like a virus?

The 3rd amendment says the govt. cannot force it's citizens to house soldiers in their homes during peacetime. I'm not sure about being forced to store weapons.

It's all semantics and whether or not we are at peace or war. James Madison probably never imagined anything like this. We probably need a cyber bill of rights or something.
Zombies PCs and botnets are controlled by a master. The master directs them to do something. Some of these botnet owners sell their services to criminals. The criminals pay to utilize the thousands of PCs under the botnet owner's control.
Once again...
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 920 [4.28GHz, HT] Asus P6T + Broadcom NetXtreme II VisionTek HD5850 [900/1200] + Galaxy GT240 2x4GB G.Skill Ripjaw X [1632 MHz] 
Hard DriveOSMonitorKeyboard
Intel X25-M 160GB + 3xRAID0 500GB 7200.12 Window 7 Pro 64 Acer H243H + Samsung 226BW XARMOR-U9BL  
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Antec Truepower New 750W Li Lian PC-V2100 [10x120mm fans] Logitech G9 X-Trac Pro 
  hide details  
Reply
Once again...
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 920 [4.28GHz, HT] Asus P6T + Broadcom NetXtreme II VisionTek HD5850 [900/1200] + Galaxy GT240 2x4GB G.Skill Ripjaw X [1632 MHz] 
Hard DriveOSMonitorKeyboard
Intel X25-M 160GB + 3xRAID0 500GB 7200.12 Window 7 Pro 64 Acer H243H + Samsung 226BW XARMOR-U9BL  
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Antec Truepower New 750W Li Lian PC-V2100 [10x120mm fans] Logitech G9 X-Trac Pro 
  hide details  
Reply
post #24 of 25
Quote:
Originally Posted by DuckieHo View Post
Zombies PCs and botnets are controlled by a master. The master directs them to do something. Some of these botnet owners sell their services to criminals. The criminals pay to utilize the thousands of PCs under the botnet owner's control.
Replace zombies and botnets with soldier, and master with General and you see the kind of semantics that tend to happen with this stuff. It's why making laws takes sooo long.

In any case, the US public would never go for this unless the lower 48 were physically under attack.
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
FX-6300 MSI 990FXA Gaming Two XFX R9 270X Kingston HyperX Blue 8GB 1600mhz 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Kingston SSD Western Digital Blue Generic CD/DVD Corsair H100i 
OSMonitorPowerCase
Windows 7 Professional x64 LG 34UM68-P Corsair RM750 Antec P-100 
  hide details  
Reply
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
FX-6300 MSI 990FXA Gaming Two XFX R9 270X Kingston HyperX Blue 8GB 1600mhz 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Kingston SSD Western Digital Blue Generic CD/DVD Corsair H100i 
OSMonitorPowerCase
Windows 7 Professional x64 LG 34UM68-P Corsair RM750 Antec P-100 
  hide details  
Reply
post #25 of 25
I'm not really worried about it. ****, I'd join the development team but I don't think I have the skills they'd be looking for.
My System
(22 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7-2600K ASUS P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3 GTX 470 G.Skill F3-12800CL8-4GBXM 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
OCZ Vertex 2 60GB SSD WD740GD Raptor WD6400AAKS Seagate ST31500341AS 
Optical DriveCoolingCoolingCooling
Asus DRW-24B1ST Swiftech APOGEE GT Danger Den DD-470GTX Swiftech MCR220 Radiator 
OSMonitorMonitorKeyboard
Windows 7 Ultimate x64 Dell 2408WFP Vizio xvt473sv Razer Lycosa 
PowerCaseMouseAudio
Corsair 620HX CM Stacker 810 Razer Lachesis Logitech Z-5500 5.1 speakers 
Other
CyberPower CP1500AVRLCD 
  hide details  
Reply
My System
(22 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7-2600K ASUS P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3 GTX 470 G.Skill F3-12800CL8-4GBXM 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
OCZ Vertex 2 60GB SSD WD740GD Raptor WD6400AAKS Seagate ST31500341AS 
Optical DriveCoolingCoolingCooling
Asus DRW-24B1ST Swiftech APOGEE GT Danger Den DD-470GTX Swiftech MCR220 Radiator 
OSMonitorMonitorKeyboard
Windows 7 Ultimate x64 Dell 2408WFP Vizio xvt473sv Razer Lycosa 
PowerCaseMouseAudio
Corsair 620HX CM Stacker 810 Razer Lachesis Logitech Z-5500 5.1 speakers 
Other
CyberPower CP1500AVRLCD 
  hide details  
Reply
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Software News
Overclock.net › Forums › Industry News › Software News › [ARS] Preparing for cyber warfare: US Air Force floats botnet plan