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Thats strange i thourght crysis was more of a graphics card game, when i run the crysis benchmark tool with my cpu @3.2GHz then do the same @3.4GHz there is no difference in the score yet if i do the test with my graphics card @stock then do the same test with my card overclocked i get a lot more FPS.
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agreed...there's no way that there's a 20 fps difference from those CPU changes. Crysis is graphically bottlenecked by today's cards, but not by CPUs.
You guys need to do some reading...

http://www.overclock.net/benchmarkin...k-results.html

http://www.overclock.net/nvidia/3199...u-testing.html
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yea... i didn't see that.. lol.

When i tried my little test with 3.2 and 3.4GHz on my q6600 there was about a 0.4 FPS increase at 1280x1024 all on high settings
Edited by wiggy2k7 - 5/13/08 at 10:20am
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What a flame bait of a thread!


Given the scope of most applications today, I beg to differ on your assumption of the q6700 vs e8400. A pc is only as fast as it's weakest point and speed is relative on the sum of the parts, not just a single component. I believe what you witnessed was one of two things, or a combination of them both.

One being faulty testing using different components and different pc's.

Second being only utilizing applications that take advantage of more than 2 cores in which, most of the time a quad will be faster.


*edit* just realized you used your same pc. I'm really intersted in what programs you used to test. For everyday use an e8400 should be faster as it can reach higher obtainable speeds, and generally has quite a bit less latency.

I've noticed quite the opposite going from a 4ghz capable q6600 to an e8400.

Only thing I lack, that I miss with the q6600 is the ability to record in fraps without significant frame loss.
Edited by NCspecV81 - 5/13/08 at 10:32am
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My e8400 at 4.0 beat out my 3.25 q6600(b3) by 20fps in Crysis. ...
???? or it didnt happen...post ur screenies..

LoL at 20fps diffrences from 3/4th of a ghz on a quadvsdual core..


BTW the quads rock the dual cores.... quadcore= DOMORE !
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What a flame bait of a thread!


Given the scope of most applications today, I beg to differ on your assumption of the q6700 vs e8400. A pc is only as fast as it's weakest point and speed is relative on the sum of the parts, not just a single component. I believe what you witnessed was one of two things, or a combination of them both.

One being faulty testing using different components and different pc's.

Second being only utilizing applications that take advantage of more than 2 cores in which, most of the time a quad will be faster. i thought that with the far greater clock speed your cpu score would be better ??


*edit* just realized you used your same pc. I'm really intersted in what programs you used to test. For everyday use an e8400 should be faster as it can reach higher obtainable speeds, and generally has quite a bit less latency.

I've noticed quite the opposite going from a 4ghz capable q6600 to an e8400.

Only thing I lack, that I miss with the q6600 is the ability to record in fraps without significant frame loss.
When i look at your 3dmark06 score my Q6600 @3.0GHz gets a better cpu score than your E8400 @4.65GHz.

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When i look at your 3dmark06 score my Q6600 @3.0GHz gets a better cpu score than your E8400 @4.65GHz.


yep as 3dmark06 is coded to be courteous to the extra cores of the quad.

However, if you compare a quad's sm2 and sm3 to my score using the same hardware, you will notice mine curb stomps the quad.
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yep as 3dmark06 is coded to be courteous to the extra cores of the quad.

However, if you compare a quad's sm2 and sm3 to my score using the same hardware, you will notice mine curb stomps the quad.
Wouldn't those scores be due to the fact that your using 3xHD3870's and im using 1 8800gt ??? arnt the sm2 and sm3 scores very much graphics card related ?
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Wouldn't those scores be due to the fact that your using 3xHD3870's and im using 1 8800gt ??? arnt the sm2 and sm3 scores very much graphics card related ?
Yes, but I'm not referring to your scores. I'm referring to a quad with the same hardware as I.



I'm no stranger to a quad...I scored nearly 20k in 06 with 320mb gts's with a quad

I was saying given the scope of most programs today not utilizing extra cores, a higher clocked dual core will be faster overall.

However, if more cores are used in a specific program a lower clocked cpu with more cores will compute more than one w/o the additional cores, even if clocked higher. As you pointed out, a cpu with half the cores would need to be clocked extremely higher than its double sized neighbor to compete in a program designed to take advantage of those additional cores, however, thats not the case with a lot of programs today.
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please dont get on with this again, THEY ARE 2 SEPERATE TYPES OF CPU, you cannot compare how a dual core performs to a quad core, because both are used for different apps and lines of work
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What a flame bait of a thread!


Given the scope of most applications today, I beg to differ on your assumption of the q6700 vs e8400. A pc is only as fast as it's weakest point and speed is relative on the sum of the parts, not just a single component. I believe what you witnessed was one of two things, or a combination of them both.

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Second being only utilizing applications that take advantage of more than 2 cores in which, most of the time a quad will be faster.


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I've noticed quite the opposite going from a 4ghz capable q6600 to an e8400.

Only thing I lack, that I miss with the q6600 is the ability to record in fraps without significant frame loss.
First off i must say that the 790i ultra auto settings are amazing. I use an array of programs, 3dMark06, Everest Ultimate, ATITOOL, Prime95,and many games such as COD4, Crysis, Oblivion. What i do is start up one of the CPU load programs Run one of the games of choice Alt tab out turn on ATITOOL and work the **** out of the video card so i can get full processor feed back with no help from Video cards some of this might not matter in testing but it does to me. As soon as i put a load on the video card while playing one of the games the E8400 folded under pressure while the Q6700 picked up a little of the slack making the game playable. I will post scores when my internet at home is fixed im typing this at work when i should be working lol. And all this is 8 hour prime95 tested settings. so with the same pc setup the quads do a hell of alot more than people give credit for. again give me time to post screenies Cheers
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