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Hey everyone,

I have a problem here. It seems that my computer is crashing all the time when ever i am doing something. Sometimes it will crash when i am playing a game or it may crash if i am just on the internet.

I was told that the problem could be my RAM. When my computer crashes, this screen appears and then my computer restarts. I tried to turn off auto restart after a crash but it would just freeze at this screen.

I was also told that if i update my MAIN drivers, then this problem might be solved.

1. Is the problem my RAM? If so, can i fix this or do i have to get new RAM?

2. If i update my MAIN drivers, will this help the problem? If so, where can i download my MAIN drivers?
    
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MAIN drivers? do you mean flashing the BIOS, or upgrading or motherboard drivers?

At any rate, a BSOD usually, though not always, means RAM instability. Download memtest and burn it to a CD and boot off of it. Let it test each stick a couple times, if you get errors then it's the RAM.

The most common cause of instability like what you're seeing is that the motherboard is incorrectly detecting the SPD timings, and setting them either too loose or too tight. Both can cause the problem you're seeing. Find out what the stock timings and voltage are for your modules, and set those manually (both voltage and the first 4 timings). Also make sure the command rate is set to 2T.
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Well i ran memtest and after 3 seconds, the blue screen came up and it restarted my computer. I ran it again just to make sure and the same result occurred. So i guess it is the ram then. I am presuming this means i have to get new RAM now. Ok thanks for the help everyone.
    
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Not necessarily! You could very possibly fix the problem with BIOS settings.

Also, if it is your RAM then crucial should accept an RMA and send you a replacement.
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Not necessarily! You could very possibly fix the problem with BIOS settings.

Also, if it is your RAM then crucial should accept an RMA and send you a replacement.
Well how could i exactly fix my RAM in my bios settings? Could you tell me how? I really appreciate the help.
    
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I described it above. You need to find out what the correct timings are for your modules. You can do this by looking up the specific part number of your DIMMs on crucial's website. Then, go into your BIOS and find the page that lets you specify RAM timings. I'm not familiar with your board so I can't tell you exactly where it is. There's a DS3R thread on the motherboard page though, and someone there can tell you.

Make sure you set the vdimm as well.

Also, if you still can't get it to work after manually setting the timings, you might try increasing the voltage to the MCH as well. But just by a little bit.
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I described it above. You need to find out what the correct timings are for your modules. You can do this by looking up the specific part number of your DIMMs on crucial's website. Then, go into your BIOS and find the page that lets you specify RAM timings. I'm not familiar with your board so I can't tell you exactly where it is. There's a DS3R thread on the motherboard page though, and someone there can tell you.

Make sure you set the vdimm as well.

Also, if you still can't get it to work after manually setting the timings, you might try increasing the voltage to the MCH as well. But just by a little bit.
Ok. I don't exactly know what you were talking about. But, i did find some specs on my RAM that had words in it that you said lol. Like DIMM and Module. According to this page, the DIMM is 240 pin and the stock speed for the module is 6400. Is that what you were talking about? Sorry. RAM is something i am not very knowledgeable at.
    
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From that page I see this info:

Module Size: 2GB kit (1GBx2)
Package: Ballistix 240-pin DIMM
Feature: DDR2 PC2-6400
Specs: DDR2 PC2-6400 • 4-4-4-12 • Unbuffered • NON-ECC • DDR2-800 • 2.2V • SLI-Ready • 128Meg x 64


The timings are 4-4-4-12, and the voltage is 2.2V (which is a LOT, but you should trust the guys who make it ). My guess is that your motherboard is setting either 4-4-4-12 or 5-5-5-18 timings and providing 1.8v to the DIMMS. But... 1.8v isn't nearly enough for those modules, so you're getting BSOD's because the RAM isn't getting enough voltage to function properly.

So now you just need to find the vdimm setting in your BIOS and set it manually to 2.2V, and then find the timings settings and set those manually as well. The first 4 timings will be in that order in the BIOS, so when you find the RAM timings just set them to 4, 4, 4, 12.

If you want to learn more about timings, I'd highly recommend the guide in my sig. It's specific to the 650i/680i chipsets, but much of it still applies.
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I hope that the memory you got are the 2 sided chips the (new) stuff is junk at least from my expirance. Having the right voltage is a deffinet got a have.
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Originally Posted by TriBeCa View Post
From that page I see this info:

Module Size: 2GB kit (1GBx2)
Package: Ballistix 240-pin DIMM
Feature: DDR2 PC2-6400
Specs: DDR2 PC2-6400 • 4-4-4-12 • Unbuffered • NON-ECC • DDR2-800 • 2.2V • SLI-Ready • 128Meg x 64


The timings are 4-4-4-12, and the voltage is 2.2V (which is a LOT, but you should trust the guys who make it ). My guess is that your motherboard is setting either 4-4-4-12 or 5-5-5-18 timings and providing 1.8v to the DIMMS. But... 1.8v isn't nearly enough for those modules, so you're getting BSOD's because the RAM isn't getting enough voltage to function properly.

So now you just need to find the vdimm setting in your BIOS and set it manually to 2.2V, and then find the timings settings and set those manually as well. The first 4 timings will be in that order in the BIOS, so when you find the RAM timings just set them to 4, 4, 4, 12.

If you want to learn more about timings, I'd highly recommend the guide in my sig. It's specific to the 650i/680i chipsets, but much of it still applies.
That makes perfect sense now. I thought that my RAM might be faulty or something. So basically, i just have to go into my bios and change the MOTHERBOARD voltage to 2.2v. I have used my bios 3 times and i have never seen any thing about changing the motherboard voltage. I have seen the cpu voltage but not the motherboard. I'll figure it out though.

When i overclocked my cpu, i think i might have messed around with the RAM timings so maybe if i change it back, i can get this problem fixed. If i have any trouble finding something, i will post it in the forums. Thanks man.
    
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