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In the Left 4 Dead interview part 2, Valve’s Doug Lombardi is talking about Direct X 10 in Left 4 Dead and in general with the Source engine.


PCGH: And what is your personal opinion about the topic? Is DX10 the way to go and therefore the way of future graphics.

Doug Lombardi: Well I mean there is always that tradeoff between taking the time to adopt the engine to a new API, right. And for us we feel like there still things in DX9 that we can achieve without having to go through the pains of moving to DX 10. (…)So for us as a company and our game designs, we've looked at the tradeoff of the work to move to DX 10 and we have always kind of felt that there is not really enough there for us to delay whatever game we are working on by six to eight month just to say we've a DX10 game. The other thing that is worth mentioning too is to run DX10 natively under the API you have to have both the card and vista. If you google to the Steam hardware survey where we poll peoples machines on Steam you can see that right now there is only about thirteen percent of those people that have both, the DX 10 card and Vista. So you have to look at that as well and say is it worth to investing for thirteen percent of the audience.
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DX10 = Fail.
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Good job, Valve, DX9 for life!
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I think Steam is mainstream enough that if Valve decided on a major change most users will follow through. They either don't want to take the risk and invest the additional resources, or just can't do it. Still, it's lame that they are stopping progress as a whole, just to keep the integrity of their user base... and their margins. Their inability to do this kind of jump is really shaking my hopes for a native Linux port.
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Why would this shake your hopes for a native Linux port, if anything this makes it more likely. As Valve said, there is still a lot they can do with DX9 and see no reason to jump to DX10. I don't blame them it is a logical statement. Their games will play on more hardware while Steam supports many a DX10 game. Once enough people have upgraded because of this, then they will see a reason to change. Till then, they still make great games that look good.
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Oh wow, that was very engrishy...
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Why would this shake your hopes for a native Linux port, if anything this makes it more likely. As Valve said, there is still a lot they can do with DX9 and see no reason to jump to DX10. I don't blame them it is a logical statement. Their games will play on more hardware while Steam supports many a DX10 game. Once enough people have upgraded because of this, then they will see a reason to change. Till then, they still make great games that look good.

How many Linux users out there that play with Wine or something similar? I bet the number isn't that much bigger than Vista users. It's true that they all very likely still run DX9 cards, but you still have the issue of porting the games to native OGL2.0+. If you take into consideration the "too few DX10 users, so we won't port to it" approach, how will they consider the move to Linux? However, the move to OGL2 compared to a move to DX10 may be easier (not sure).
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To be honest, and I know I'll probably get flamed for this...but Its hard to tell a difference between DX9 and DX10...its no way near as easy to tell between DX8 and DX9...DX10 is to DX9 what Vista is to XP...an unnoticeable improvement...
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To be honest, and I know I'll probably get flamed for this...but Its hard to tell a difference between DX9 and DX10...its no way near as easy to tell between DX8 and DX9...DX10 is to DX9 what Vista is to XP...an unnoticeable improvement...
In today games, yes. In future games i promise that you will see a big difference between dx10 and dx9.
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As long as it looks good with minimal performance hit, then that's all I want! It would be nice to see some improvements to the Source engine, but oh well. I wasn't expecting it this soon anyhow...
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