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Refresh rate is completely different than framerate.

No. It is the buyer's responsibility to understand what they are purchasing anyway.

The 240Hz will do no good if the monitor can't generate the frame fast enough, as I already pointed out, and ghosting depends upon your framerate with respect to your response time.
i thought ghosting is based from response time. 240hz is the monitor's refresh rate so what are you talking about?
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I didn't say it wouldn't eliminate tearing, I said it wouldn't matter if the refresh rate were 240Hz if the response time cannot keep up. If your monitor doesn't have a response time less than 4.17ms, it can't display 240 frames in a second. Your second and third sentences are exactly what I said and contradictory to what you initially said.
You lost me. Second and third sentence? There are only two, and my intention was to reiterate what I previously said, which I thought I had done?

Oh well, maybe I'm wrong then.
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i thought ghosting is based from response time. 240hz is the monitor's refresh rate so what are you talking about?
I'm talking about two separate things in that sentence which is where I think you are getting confused.

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You lost me. Second and third sentence? There are only two, and my intention was to reiterate what I previously said, which I thought I had done?

Oh well, maybe I'm wrong then.
I see 3 periods.
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I see 3 periods.
Let this be an example of why 4 hours of sleep and strong coffee is not a good habit to be in.
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I just bought this Sammy LCD off Amazon:


I love the 120hz Auto Motion Plus. It takes some getting used to, but it makes movies appear more lifelike to me. There's definitely a difference when it's on and off. It's pretty sweet. 240Hz....I can't wait to see.
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I just bought this Sammy LCD off Amazon: Amazon.com: Samsung LN46A650 46-inch 1080p 120Hz LCD HDTV with RED Touch of Color: Electronics

I love the 120hz Auto Motion Plus. It takes some getting used to, but it makes movies appear more lifelike to me. There's definitely a difference when it's on and off. It's pretty sweet. 240Hz....I can't wait to see.
I don't think someone has read the entire thread... Besides, there is only so much interpolating can do for you.

Too bad that Samsung isn't a 58" and touch of NO color or I'd buy it!
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I don't think someone has read the entire thread... Besides, there is only so much interpolating can do for you.

Too bad that Samsung isn't a 58" and touch of NO color or I'd buy it!
What did I miss?
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What did I miss?
The Samsung monitor advertises 4ms response time, so it barely cuts the mustard with the 240Hz, assuming they can keep the response time down with the higher refresh rate. I hadn't realized they were down that low so I guess you missed nothing.

Still, I challenge anyone to tell the difference between 240fps and 120fps, especially when anything beyond 60fps is interpolated.
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I might be wrong, but I think refresh rate is a completely overrated thing given monitor response times and framerate requirements of movies or games. I know, in games, more FPS the better (well, technically speaking you can have a game choppy as hell with 100fps vs. a smooth game at 30fps, but that's another story), but honestly? 240Hz seems a bit overkill. I thought 120Hz was overkill...but that's just me...
    
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The Samsung monitor advertises 4ms response time, so it barely cuts the mustard with the 240Hz, assuming they can keep the response time down with the higher refresh rate. I hadn't realized they were down that low so I guess you missed nothing.

Still, I challenge anyone to tell the difference between 240fps and 120fps, especially when anything beyond 60fps is interpolated.
Well I dont know about the whole 120 vs 240 FPS thing. But I can attest to the difference in picture in 60hz vs 120hz. It's very noticeable, but not always practical to have. Sometimes it makes images move too fast to the point that it looks like your pressing the fast forward button. Really all depends on the source. Fast action movies, sports, etc really benefit from it.

And also, these 240hz sets are years away. Just something to keep in mind.
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