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Well I dont know about the whole 120 vs 240 FPS thing. But I can attest to the difference in picture in 60hz vs 120hz. It's very noticeable, but not always practical to have. Sometimes it makes images move too fast to the point that it looks like your pressing the fast forward button. Really all depends on the source. Fast action movies, sports, etc really benefit from it.

And also, these 240hz sets are years away. Just something to keep in mind.
What you are actually seeing is the difference between 30fps and 60fps (they interpolate frame).
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What you are actually seeing is the difference between 30fps and 60fps (they interpolate frame).
I'm not sure about that, as it depends on the source. Now maybe my own definition of interpolation is incorrect, but for example...

If you watch something filmed in 24fps on a 60 hz set, you'll get interpolation because 60 is not divisible by 24. But if you watch that same 24fps film on a 120hz set, you'll get smoother picture because 120 is divisible by 24, hence no interpolation....there's no adding of additional "infomation".

I may be thinking of something else. The technical jargon gets confusing. Either way it all boils down to the source.

Here's what wiki says:

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Motion interpolation is a form of de-judder video processing used in various display devices such as HDTVs and video players. New frames are interpolated and inserted between standard frames to smooth the picture. Films are recorded at a frame rate of 24 frames per second (frame/s) and television is typically filmed at 30 or 60 frame/s. Display devices such as HDTVs have a refresh rate of 60 Hz or 120 Hz. The display device can repeat the standard frames or insert new frames that are interpolated on the fly.

A number of 120 Hz HDTVs use frame interpolation to reduce judder, although not all 120 Hz HDTVs include a motion interpolation feature. Mitsubishi's 120 Hz HDTVs do not include de-judder processing. Anti judder technology is not the same as motion blur reducing technology, but is frequently lumped together with it.[1]

Edited by ElMikeTheMike - 5/14/08 at 5:03pm
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I'm not sure about that, as it depends on the source. Now maybe my own definition of interpolation is incorrect, but for example...

If you watch something filmed in 24fps on a 60 hz set, you'll get interpolation because 60 is not divisible by 24. But if you watch that same 24fps film on a 120hz set, you'll get smoother picture because 120 is divisible by 24, hence no interpolation....there's no adding of additional "infomation".

I may be thinking of something else. The technical jargon gets confusing. Either way it all boils down to the source.

Here's what wiki says:
Your Wiki quote tells you what I was saying is true. Most TV comes in at 30fps, and you aren't interpolating 4 times between frames to get 120fps, you are interpolating once to get 60fps and then each frame is displayed twice. I find it hard to believe that the video processors interpolate 3 times between every set of 2 frames to get you a full 120fps, as that just introduces too much error. Video games would be the most common source of 60fps action, and even then it is doubtful on the higher-end games since the graphics are more taxing.
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^ I dunno, as long as it looks good is all that matters.
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I like that!
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eh? coming from someone that is... somewhat up on technology and terminology...why do I feel like I just crawled out from under a rock?

Hang on! While I get my club and find that damn women! Believe me, I have not lost me cave.

Seriously, I must be slacking, and falling behind on the things I should know!

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Just another way to sham mom and pop.
Not true. Go watch one, and you will see. It is by far the smoothest picture I have ever seen.
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^ I dunno, as long as it looks good is all that matters.
Indeed. I had to turn off the motion enhancing feature on my TV because it was over...enhancing MLB2K8.
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