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Like I said, I am new to building and some of the knowledge regarding the components is not as strong as it could be. Would you mind expanding on why you recommend what you do? (it the ATI cards over Nvidia and the change in motherboards). Also, just for input, anyone else have opinions on the recommendations?
Intel board overclock better, NVidia boards have SLI. CrossFire scales better than SLI, it always will, just because of how it works. Anything above 1680x1050 needs dual cards to run well for a few years.
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My current board is an ATI x800 All-In-Wonder and it has not had any major problems that I know of. One of the major benefits that I use quite frequently is the ability to output to a TV for movies and such. In addition to this, it is even better because I can use the desktop and view the TV simultaneously. I would assume that the newer/recommended technology is capable of this?
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My current board is an ATI x800 All-In-Wonder and it has not had any major problems that I know of. One of the major benefits that I use quite frequently is the ability to output to a TV for movies and such. In addition to this, it is even better because I can use the desktop and view the TV simultaneously. I would assume that the newer/recommended technology is capable of this?
The majority of modern video cards have multiple video outputs. HOWEVER NVidia cards in SLI have only one video output. ATI's CrossFire allows for multiple outputs at once.

The X800 is a decent card for the price. But with the 9600GT, HD3870, HD3850, and 8800GT in the sub $200, the x800 is just so terrible >_<
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The majority of modern video cards have multiple video outputs. HOWEVER NVidia cards in SLI have only one video output. ATI's CrossFire allows for multiple outputs at once.

The X800 is a decent card for the price. But with the 9600GT, HD3870, HD3850, and 8800GT in the sub $200, the x800 is just so terrible >_<
Ok that is what I thought about the outputs. Looks like CrossFire it is. As for my current board, I know it is lagging now but I bought it when it was still a fairly new board (3 yrs ago?).

Based on what has been said, for the money it sounds like Grimms recs for the dual 3870's is a good choice. I am sticking with the e8400 for sure because any quads out there or that might come out prior to the 1366 (doubtful) will drop in price significantly and I can scoop one up if I feel it is necessary.

I got a rec for this HS because it is a bit lower than the Turniq and apparently "works better". Installation is supposedly a bit easier as well Its size may be a concern, however.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835233003
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Wait for June 18th and get a 4870...Its hopefully going to be comparable to a GX2 for $200 less...
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Ok that is what I thought about the outputs. Looks like CrossFire it is. As for my current board, I know it is lagging now but I bought it when it was still a fairly new board (3 yrs ago?).

Based on what has been said, for the money it sounds like Grimms recs for the dual 3870's is a good choice. I am sticking with the e8400 for sure because any quads out there or that might come out prior to the 1366 (doubtful) will drop in price significantly and I can scoop one up if I feel it is necessary.

I got a rec for this HS because it is a bit lower than the Turniq and apparently "works better". Installation is supposedly a bit easier as well Its size may be a concern, however.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835233003
I doubt the Xig works better than the TT120. Either one will work great, the E8400 puts off almost no heat.

What resolution will you be running? Dual cards are better for high resolution.

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Wait for June 18th and get a 4870...Its hopefully going to be comparable to a GX2 for $200 less...
Where the hell did you hear June 18? August is the more likely.
Edited by RussianGrimmReaper - 5/15/08 at 4:16pm
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Most likely 1680x1050 or better as I am planning on a 22"-24"
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Also what companies would you recommend for the 3870's if I go that route?

The lowest I can find the Asus Formula is for 250 (not 150) is there something you know that I don't?
Edited by True2paintball - 5/15/08 at 9:43pm
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post #19 of 36
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Also what companies would you recommend for the 3870's if I go that route?

The lowest I can find the Asus Formula is for 250 (not 150) is there something you know that I don't?
150 for P35's, 250ish for X38's. The cheapest X38/48 is the DFI DK on Newegg which is 190. P35's have crossfire but are 16x/4x as opposed to the X38/48's 32/4or1 OR 16/16/4or1
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Will running a p35 in Crossfire be severely limited in performance to the x38/x48? What about for upgrade purposes? Also, why DDR2-1000 over 800?

I am also really worried that this is going to go over my absolute maximum of 1500 (must include shipping).
Edited by True2paintball - 5/16/08 at 9:50am
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