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Yeah, as the other guy said, Mac is based on BSD and it is by no means the first Unix based desktop.
The Hundred Gunner just said its freebsd and unix
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but isnt Solaris very far from being optimized for x86 processors?
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actually it runs very good on Sun's Opteron servers, but it is not compatible with a lot of hardware (cause is ment to ru non servers) and it needs a lot of memory
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Like everyone else has said, Solaris will only run well on limited hardware. It is meant to be a server OS and pretty much meant to run on SPARC hardware.
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post #15 of 31
Try FreeBSD if you want some Unix environment. It is almost as good for desktop as Linux is, has great documentation and awesome ports system. You can also check Slackware Linux distribution which is most unix-like. If you want to play around with Solaris you would be better to buy some cheap Sun server on ebay.
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post #16 of 31
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Originally Posted by mkdir View Post
what for? (unless you have a sparc)
Solaris isn't just for SPARC and hasn't been for a long time. Sun actually promotes it's use on their own x86 servers. Now, it might be true that it scales better on SPARC systems, but it can and will run on x86. One of the main advantages of Solaris is the scalability (supposedly better than Linux) and thus it's applicability to multi CPU systems.


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However, it has also supported x86 systems since Solaris 2.1 and the latest version, Solaris 10, includes support for 64-bit x86 applications, allowing Sun to capitalize on the availability of commodity 64-bit CPUs based on the x86-64 architecture. Sun has heavily marketed Solaris for use with both its own "x64" workstations and servers based on AMD Opteron and Intel Xeon processors, as well as x86 systems manufactured by companies such as Dell, Hewlett-Packard, and IBM.
I will agree with you in that it is not the best *nix platform (at least not yet) for the average workstation. However, developers might prefer it anyway since it integrates some of Sun's proprietary features that can't be obtained in any Linux platform (such as Dtrace). It's true, however, that BSD and Linux variants are implementing these features now that the code is free.

I just got it to install successfully in VirtualBox and got to test it out. The installation is slow. Interestingly, even though the desktop looks like Gnome, it isn't -- it is some desktop Sun created to appear like Gnome. Of course my sound didn't work out of the box, but this is common even with most of the "newb friendly" Linux distros I have tried. I also get some warning at boot up that I need to flash my BIOS for the latest "microcode patch." Not sure what this means, but my BIOS is one of the latest, if not the latest for my board.

Solaris isn't something that will replace the best Linux distro (PCLOS) that I use daily, but it will be fun to tinker with and watch in the future when it becomes more feature rich and stable. OpenSolaris has the potential to take over the *nix server market (even though Solaris was a force in that market already, but now it will compete with Red Hat more now since Solaris is now implementing some Linux features).
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post #17 of 31
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Try FreeBSD if you want some Unix environment. It is almost as good for desktop as Linux is, has great documentation and awesome ports system. You can also check Slackware Linux distribution which is most unix-like. If you want to play around with Solaris you would be better to buy some cheap Sun server on ebay.

Yep. I am downloading DesktopBSD as we speak. I have tried PC BSD already but it wouldn't install (I am probably not preparing my drives properly). I am not sure what the difference is in DesktopBSD and PC BSD, but I am going to try them both. I see no point in getting FreeBSD itself since these other two projects are "Desktop friendly" versions.

The only issue I have with BSD in general is it's lack of compiled and ready to install packages -- it has a long way to go to catch up with the repositories of, say, Debian/Ubuntu and Fedora. If BSD had the package selection of most Linux distros, it would be very tempting for a lot of "tinkering" and perhaps a permanent switch.
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post #18 of 31
There is no sense using Solaris/OpenSolaris, or any of it's forks (like nexenta), on desktop. They should concentrate on what they can do - and that is to provide a solid OS for servers. For desktop you have GNU/Linux.

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the best Linux distro (PCLOS)
you must be joking...
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post #19 of 31
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The only issue I have with BSD in general is it's lack of compiled and ready to install packages -- it has a long way to go to catch up with the repositories of, say, Debian/Ubuntu and Fedora.
The ports aren't enough for you? Compile the soft you need once and run it forever. Or install binary packages on every new release.
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If your using it for a server then it is great, however for a workstation it is a royal pain in the neck. It runs perfectly fine on a P4 1.6 with 512 megs of RAM, its just not too pretty, not built for workstations, and generally does not include all the things a workstation needs.

If you want something fun that works great, try Opensuse 10.3 (34 days left till Suse 11). Yes Hundred gunner you got me hooked.

If you want to learn a lot try Slackware or Arch linux.
    
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