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Seriously, who uses Limewire?

LOL, LIMEWIRE

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post #12 of 43
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Originally Posted by JoeUbi View Post
Seriously, who uses Limewire?

LOL, LIMEWIRE

http://cristgaming.com/pirate.swf
lol. I love that flash vid. I have that saved somewhere!

Ok.. back to sorta topic, i geuss.

+rep to joblo69. Agreed but in todays world it seems to rarely work that way. All they have to say now is that some how, some way you are funding terrorisim or something and *poof*. YOU ARE NOW BUGGED! lol. OK, maybe that's a bit far. but I think this is starting to get to close to prohibited political talk now. sry...
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Originally Posted by JoBlo69 View Post
WHAT!?!?!??

That makes no sense at all...

There is a huge difference between doing something illegal, and when a judge finds a person guilty of doing something illegal. I'm not sure you fully understand the legal system in this country, which is not surprising. it is so convoluted on purpose, so people don't really know what their rights are in a given situation...

This is kinda like illegal wire tapping. If some agency/individual thinks you are doing something illegal (down loading music) they need to show proof to a judge so they can get a warrant to raid your computer to get those songs they think you have downloaded illegally. In order to get that initial information you need to show to a judge that issues the warrant is the grey area. the RIAA thinks they can do whatever they want, regardless of the local laws/user agreements...

Unless you sign away your rights via a strange user agreement when you tap into your collages network, nobody has a right to look at your traffic, just like no one is allowed to listen to your phone calls...
You have no right as stated in if you have comcast internet.

"However, you acknowledge and agree that Comcast and its agents have the right to monitor, from time to time, any such postings and transmissions, including without limitation e-mail, newsgroups, chat, IP audio and video, and Web space content. Comcast may also use and disclose them in accordance with the Comcast High-Speed Internet Acceptable Use Policy and other applicable policies, and as otherwise required by law or government request."

Doesn't anyone read the TOS?
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Originally Posted by JoeUbi View Post
Seriously, who uses Limewire?

LOL, LIMEWIRE

http://cristgaming.com/pirate.swf
thats funny. lol.

I used to use limewire. but now its shareaza for me.
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Originally Posted by JoBlo69 View Post
This is kinda like illegal wire tapping. If some agency/individual thinks you are doing something illegal (down loading music) they need to show proof to a judge so they can get a warrant to raid your computer to get those songs they think you have downloaded illegally. In order to get that initial information you need to show to a judge that issues the warrant is the grey area. the RIAA thinks they can do whatever they want, regardless of the local laws/user agreements...

Unless you sign away your rights via a strange user agreement when you tap into your collages network, nobody has a right to look at your traffic, just like no one is allowed to listen to your phone calls...
This isn't the same scenario as wiretapping. Someone who is running P2P software can be expected to know that they are offering files for download. This base functionality of the software requires network connections to be set up with whomever requests the files. If you're running LimeWire, the default settings permit external users to browse your shared files; so by running LimeWire and not changing those settings, you are implicity granting permission to others to do just that.

Some folks will probably argue that people might not know that LimeWire does this...too bad. Just because you didn't see the speed limit sign on the highway doesn't mean you don't have to abide by the speed limit.

A more apt parallel might be to say that you need a court order to record something that a person is shouting through a bullhorn, that anyone within earshot can hear. Which is, of course, not true. It's still not a perfect metaphor, but it's akin to P2P than a wiretapping metaphore.

And as far as no one having the right to look at your network traffic: I guarantee that every network you have ever used, you signed away your rights to said "privacy"; if not on a document, then through a click-wrap or other license agreement. If you think you have any privacy on any network, you're crazy. Better start encrypting everything if that's really important to you.

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Originally Posted by Murlocke View Post
Also, if music was more affordable people would buy it.
You don't think 99-cents per song is affordable? No one is forcing you to spend $15 dollars on a CD anymore...it's pretty old-school, actually. Just buy the songs you want, and 99-cents is dirt cheap in my book. Cripes, you can get four songs for the price of a gallon of gasoline!
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WHAT!?!?!??

That makes no sense at all...

There is a huge difference between doing something illegal, and when a judge finds a person guilty of doing something illegal. I'm not sure you fully understand the legal system in this country, which is not surprising. it is so convoluted on purpose, so people don't really know what their rights are in a given situation...

This is kinda like illegal wire tapping. If some agency/individual thinks you are doing something illegal (down loading music) they need to show proof to a judge so they can get a warrant to raid your computer to get those songs they think you have downloaded illegally. In order to get that initial information you need to show to a judge that issues the warrant is the grey area. the RIAA thinks they can do whatever they want, regardless of the local laws/user agreements...

Unless you sign away your rights via a strange user agreement when you tap into your collages network, nobody has a right to look at your traffic, just like no one is allowed to listen to your phone calls...
eh

not like the government cares about technology unless it is furthering their agenda (ranDUM /rant, my bad...)

EDIT: jail time is still jail time bud, I KNOW exactly where your coming from, BUT you better be prepared to dump cash onto a lawyer to get out of that court house without a $500k-per-song fine (not literally)

EDIT2: L2Torrent nubs
Edited by johonm333 - 5/15/08 at 6:09am
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lol limewire...
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while I was too lazy to read the entire thing(lol) isn't this kind of invading the privacy of people, and their rights?
would have to say yes, because it's done without due-process. They are asking for information pertaining to a specific person based on an address. There is no court paperwork filed to get that information released. That would be no different than if someone decided to search your house because you have something they THINK is illegal.

Down with the RIAA for practices like this, and for side-stepping the legal system.

Notice they only do this with universities?? That's because there is no way they'd EVER get that information from a corporate ISP because of privacy issues!! There would have to be court orders for the release of that information.
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WHAT!?!?!??

That makes no sense at all...

There is a huge difference between doing something illegal, and when a judge finds a person guilty of doing something illegal. I'm not sure you fully understand the legal system in this country, which is not surprising. it is so convoluted on purpose, so people don't really know what their rights are in a given situation...

This is kinda like illegal wire tapping. If some agency/individual thinks you are doing something illegal (down loading music) they need to show proof to a judge so they can get a warrant to raid your computer to get those songs they think you have downloaded illegally. In order to get that initial information you need to show to a judge that issues the warrant is the grey area. the RIAA thinks they can do whatever they want, regardless of the local laws/user agreements...

Unless you sign away your rights via a strange user agreement when you tap into your collages network, nobody has a right to look at your traffic, just like no one is allowed to listen to your phone calls...
Thank you for stating it in a way that I couldn't quite get into a complete thought!!

At least there's SOMEONE that has a basic grasp of the legal system in this country!!
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You guys realize that our "rights" protect us against GOVERNMENT. They do not apply to a private company or group like the RIAA. They do not apply to your private ISP that has a Term of Service clause that you agreed.

This is not an invasion of privacy because it is not the government doing it......
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