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Originally Posted by lordikon View Post
What if I paid for the songs, or ripped them off a CD I own, and just happen to run LimeWire, which automatically searches for songs on my computer?

This process is bull****. This happened with Napster and Metallica. I legally own the Black Album by Metallica, but back in the day I had no ripping software, so I decided to simply download it. Then one day while running Napster I get a message that I've been banned from Napster for illegally owning Metallica songs. Complete bull****, that is all I have to say.
Your situation was different though. If someone goes and downloads Limewire, and doesn't know the risks, or how it works, and has Limewire automatically search for media(instead of manually selecting folders), it's their own ignorance that's at fault here. Limewire isn't going to force you to share EVERY media file, it's only the directory you'd choose to share. If you own the music, and run Limewire, you should be expected to know how to actually use the software, and tell it not to share the music you own.

I don't see how you could really be angered by this, since it's your own use of the software that would cause these kinds of things to happen, and we can't get mad at RIAA for using the same software more intelligently.
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as far as im concerned if they actually follow what they said there with universities than i think they are doing nothing wrong. They are looking at stuff you make public. Now there fines and crap are rediculous but as far as this article goes i think they are well within their rights and it is definitely legal and in now way a breach of privacy.
I agree. It's not like they're looking at private files that you have. You choose to share them publically so anyone on the network can see what you're sharing wether they're RIAA or not. I believe that if someone's really worried they shouldn't be running it.
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This process is bull****. This happened with Napster and Metallica. I legally own the Black Album by Metallica, but back in the day I had no ripping software, so I decided to simply download it. Then one day while running Napster I get a message that I've been banned from Napster for illegally owning Metallica songs. Complete bull****, that is all I have to say.
Hello...McFly...

Owning a CD does not give you the right to download copies of the songs on that CD. You can rip your own copies. The fact that you did not have ripping software does not change the law for you.

And you had no problem downloading an entire CD full of songs, but found it to be too much trouble to go download free ripping software? It wasn't exactly hard to find, even back in the stone age before Google.

This argument lacks any substance.
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so why can't ppl just use emule or BT with encrypted connection?

encrypting your connection doesn't do anything because they don't monitor your data. instead they are just seeing what you have open to the public. if emule works by sharing just like limewire does then you still have the same issue.


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Originally Posted by lordikon View Post
What if I paid for the songs, or ripped them off a CD I own, and just happen to run LimeWire, which automatically searches for songs on my computer?

This process is bull****. This happened with Napster and Metallica. I legally own the Black Album by Metallica, but back in the day I had no ripping software, so I decided to simply download it. Then one day while running Napster I get a message that I've been banned from Napster for illegally owning Metallica songs. Complete bull****, that is all I have to say.

It is a good thing I hate most of the popular songs today, and buy all my stuff on iTunes or CDs.

you don't own the songs you own the right to listen to the songs. you do not have a right to distribute them.
that is what they are catching people on is distribution of music.
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I think its in the Internet agreement and ISP TOS. I know its in mine.
Exactly. For colleges, I'm sure its in one of their handbooks/agreements you get when you become a student at that particular college, that you will not use their network for any illegal activities.
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post #36 of 43
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edit: also not knowing a program does something is not an excuse. Unless it is not documented anywhere. But if you research that it does it you should know what programs you are using are capable of.
I wish I remembered the source, but right now there is a lawsuit against the RIAA for just that fact. Their case is that this guy ripped his own music, and LimeWire happened to know about that folder so it was shared.

In my opinion, the illegal part shouldn't be offering them up, it should be downloading them. If I leave a diamond ring sitting in my yard 1 foot away from the sidewalk, that isn't illegal, but someone else taking it out of my yard IS illegal.
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What's the tl;dr ?

RIAA scans limewire for infringing songs, downloads if they can't verify hash(lol pirating their own stuff) and sends letters to colleges.
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I wish I remembered the source, but right now there is a lawsuit against the RIAA for just that fact. Their case is that this guy ripped his own music, and LimeWire happened to know about that folder so it was shared.
If there really is such a case, the RIAA is going to win. A person's ignorance of what their LimeWire software is sharing is not an excuse. You know for a fact that LimeWire shares files...you had better keep track of which folders LimeWire is sharing from and what files you put in there. Any other conclusion advocates the nanny-state mentality that the poor, poor idiots need to be saved from themselves, a mentality which has created such gems as the critically acclaimed "Coffee is Hot" warning stickers.

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In my opinion, the illegal part shouldn't be offering them up, it should be downloading them. If I leave a diamond ring sitting in my yard 1 foot away from the sidewalk, that isn't illegal, but someone else taking it out of my yard IS illegal.
A false analogy. Your yard is not generally considered an open area where things are free to take; taking something from your yard is clearly not permissable. A true analogy would be if you had set up a table in your yard with a sign on it saying "You can take anything on this table for free"; and then you left your diamond ring on that table. Mistake or not, you told the world that anything on the table was free to take; so you have no one to blame but yourself when someone actually does take your ring.

I'll also point out that no one's opinion of what "should" be legal or not is irrelevant. It simply is illegal under current law. If you don't like the law, go into politics and try to get it changed, I guess.
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Oh, this thread makes me want to jump up and down &/or cry
I'm not going to name names, but big Boo Hiss to quite a few posters
How can a site of "Technically aware" if not "elite" computer folk, spout Sooo much drivel and absolute claptrap! Especially regarding something this close to our "Realm of Expertise"!
I'm literally, just gobsmacked at the banality of some comments.

- and to rep somebody for "Being one of the few people to really understand the US law" when that post is so preposterously inaccurate as to be absurd!
that's an even worse sign of a hackneyed and ill-prepared thought process.

If You're going to go on a lengthy tirade or exposition regarding a subject, at least take the time, and give us the courtesy of knowing what you are talking about first!.
(Hint: exposition kinda implies teaching from a position of knowledge)

Especially funny (sad) are the comments that start with: too long; Didn't read or, "I was too lazy to actually bother reading the article" - "But, here's what I think anyways....." and then contained some of the shallowest and most trite "rationalizations" ever to masquerade as "facts"

"No, Sir, I don't Like It"

For those that have provided sane and Salient points; R+ has been appropriately dispensed.
VulcanD; Wish I could Sir! How about a few + +
Cheers to ALL


(Sorry was that too long of a post? )
For the AHDD- A Synopsis- Please try to actually read something before you reply to it! (And having a modicum of understanding, helps too! KTHXS)!!!111!1!
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