Overclock.net › Forums › AMD › AMD CPUs › OC AMD Athlon X2 Dual-Core 6400+ (ADX6400CZBOX)
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

OC AMD Athlon X2 Dual-Core 6400+ (ADX6400CZBOX)

post #1 of 34
Thread Starter 
Hi everybody,
I began tonite making OC slowly step by step. Here is the cpu-z result
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=361533


I need to handle some cooling for pc then i will go on. I didnt have any problem till now. During the nite after OC I use pc and still no any frozen. I am new for 6400+ and I will need your help and advices. After OC i tried Crysis and it was really different even 200Mhz something changed. After having a stable values i will apply some OC to my vga card too.

I also changed HT from Auto to 800Mhz and ram from 800mhz to 667. What do you think about it? It was necessary or not?

According to the results how can i go on as stock equipment? I tried 223x15.5 but in play it locked after some minutes. 222x15.5 seems like stable but maybe i should check it with orthos then we can see. think3r friend gave a thread link about "the things must know before OC in the forum and i think i need to read it first very well.

Please share your knowledge about 6400+ and OC


thanks for your helps...

PS: in my bios menu in ram section there are numbers as 800-667-533-and 400, if i want to set my ram timing as 4-4-4-12 which one should i choose. in everst it says 4-4-4-12@266mhz but in my list there is no 266.Any help for this?
Edited by theahbab - 5/15/08 at 4:58pm
Ahbab System
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD 64 Athlon X2 6400+ Black Edition Gigabyte gA-MA790x DS4 (Rev.1) Sapphire HD 3870 GDDR4 Single Slot 4x1 gb PQI DDR2 800mhz 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
250 Gb Seagate 7200.10 16mb cache sata2 Sony Nec DVD Rw Vista Home Premium 64bit Dell 19" 
PowerCase
OCZ StealthXStream 600W A big Case very BIG 
  hide details  
Reply
Ahbab System
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD 64 Athlon X2 6400+ Black Edition Gigabyte gA-MA790x DS4 (Rev.1) Sapphire HD 3870 GDDR4 Single Slot 4x1 gb PQI DDR2 800mhz 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
250 Gb Seagate 7200.10 16mb cache sata2 Sony Nec DVD Rw Vista Home Premium 64bit Dell 19" 
PowerCase
OCZ StealthXStream 600W A big Case very BIG 
  hide details  
Reply
post #2 of 34
hi first of all after you change something test your system wtih orthos for 1h to see if it si stable also monitor your temps with coretemp i will suggest that they souldnt go above 55 during testing if they do you should lower your oc and buy a good hs!Also lock your pci bus at 33 and pci-ex bus at 100 Mhz!for the memory what you see in everest or in cpuz is the half so 266x2=532!What memory timings are your stock timings and what company are your
memory sticks???And if i read correct you are already at 4-4-4-12!!!!!!!!!!!!
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD Phenom II 550@stock for now asus m2n32-sli-deluxe-wifi Sapphire x1950 pro512@core621 mem1592 CORSAIR TWINX DDR2 6400@800 4-4-4-12 v1.825 
Hard DriveOSMonitorPower
WD 80GB caviar windows xp SP3 full updated 17' Enermax infinity 650w 
Case
Aerocool ExtremEngine 3T (black) 
  hide details  
Reply
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD Phenom II 550@stock for now asus m2n32-sli-deluxe-wifi Sapphire x1950 pro512@core621 mem1592 CORSAIR TWINX DDR2 6400@800 4-4-4-12 v1.825 
Hard DriveOSMonitorPower
WD 80GB caviar windows xp SP3 full updated 17' Enermax infinity 650w 
Case
Aerocool ExtremEngine 3T (black) 
  hide details  
Reply
post #3 of 34
that is a respectable overclock sofar with that chip, some people have trouble getting that high on air cooling.

as for the settings you mentioned for the ram (800-667-533-400), they are default speeds if you are running your FSB at stock values. So they will change as you raise your FSB. If you look at your "MEMORY" tab on CPU-Z, and look at FSB: DRAM, you will see that the speed settings mentioned above (800-667-533-400) are just "dividers" from your CPU speed. It takes a fraction of your CPU speed and sets your ram to that speed.

You should monitor your temperatures at that high of a speed. There are several programs that will do that. (EX: speedfan, coretemp, or everest) you should be aiming for below 55C max while running orthos

if your temperatures are fine, you could consider adding more voltage for stability. 1.5v is usually a little much for air cooling but 1.45v is perfectly reasonable

good luck with your overclocking
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 960 4.1ghz HT on ASUS P6T SE ASUS 6970 DCII (975/1498 1.2V) 6x2GB G.skill 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
128GB Force GT + 2 x 500gb SP-F3's RAID-0 Samsung 20x DVD-RW Corsair H40 Win7 ultimate x64 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Samsung 245t G15 (v2) corsair AX850 CM Stacker 830 
MouseMouse Pad
G5 dota custom 
  hide details  
Reply
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 960 4.1ghz HT on ASUS P6T SE ASUS 6970 DCII (975/1498 1.2V) 6x2GB G.skill 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
128GB Force GT + 2 x 500gb SP-F3's RAID-0 Samsung 20x DVD-RW Corsair H40 Win7 ultimate x64 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Samsung 245t G15 (v2) corsair AX850 CM Stacker 830 
MouseMouse Pad
G5 dota custom 
  hide details  
Reply
post #4 of 34
Even the cheap ram should handle a small overclock like that at 800 mhz, It would make things perform better as well a bit. My cheap ADATA ram is running at 950 Mhz currently, so good luck
Mean Machine
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD Athlon 64 X2 4200 @ 3.0 Ghz (rising) -Gigabyte GA-M68SM-S2L [Still working!]Geforce 7900 GT @ 520/1510 2 gigs DDR2 @ 950 Mhz 
Hard DriveOSPower
160 GB Sata II XP SP3 400 W Silverstone 
  hide details  
Reply
Mean Machine
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD Athlon 64 X2 4200 @ 3.0 Ghz (rising) -Gigabyte GA-M68SM-S2L [Still working!]Geforce 7900 GT @ 520/1510 2 gigs DDR2 @ 950 Mhz 
Hard DriveOSPower
160 GB Sata II XP SP3 400 W Silverstone 
  hide details  
Reply
post #5 of 34
Thread Starter 
hi friends,
I tried orthos and it stopped 2 times in 5 min 15 sec. I add the pic and tell me what can be the reason? My eyes on the temp and it was very normal. I think it is because of something else. Vista gives the warning as "orthos stopped working" and it wants me to close it or find an online solution. Any experiment for that?

Thank you...
Ahbab System
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD 64 Athlon X2 6400+ Black Edition Gigabyte gA-MA790x DS4 (Rev.1) Sapphire HD 3870 GDDR4 Single Slot 4x1 gb PQI DDR2 800mhz 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
250 Gb Seagate 7200.10 16mb cache sata2 Sony Nec DVD Rw Vista Home Premium 64bit Dell 19" 
PowerCase
OCZ StealthXStream 600W A big Case very BIG 
  hide details  
Reply
Ahbab System
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD 64 Athlon X2 6400+ Black Edition Gigabyte gA-MA790x DS4 (Rev.1) Sapphire HD 3870 GDDR4 Single Slot 4x1 gb PQI DDR2 800mhz 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
250 Gb Seagate 7200.10 16mb cache sata2 Sony Nec DVD Rw Vista Home Premium 64bit Dell 19" 
PowerCase
OCZ StealthXStream 600W A big Case very BIG 
  hide details  
Reply
post #6 of 34
Means your OC is orthos unstable, possibly 4 gigs of ram is stressing the mobo a lot.
Mean Machine
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD Athlon 64 X2 4200 @ 3.0 Ghz (rising) -Gigabyte GA-M68SM-S2L [Still working!]Geforce 7900 GT @ 520/1510 2 gigs DDR2 @ 950 Mhz 
Hard DriveOSPower
160 GB Sata II XP SP3 400 W Silverstone 
  hide details  
Reply
Mean Machine
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD Athlon 64 X2 4200 @ 3.0 Ghz (rising) -Gigabyte GA-M68SM-S2L [Still working!]Geforce 7900 GT @ 520/1510 2 gigs DDR2 @ 950 Mhz 
Hard DriveOSPower
160 GB Sata II XP SP3 400 W Silverstone 
  hide details  
Reply
post #7 of 34
From what i can tell and this is just me......no flames plz if I'm Wrong. I think it is your memory holdiong back your OC. In your sig you did not mention what brand it was so that tells me that possibly you do not know, i agree ithe joker on the four sticks of ram stressing your memory controller. Try taking out 2 sticks and running orthos with the same settings. I would like to know how that fairs




and at the same time lower you memory freq to 400 , that way it underclocks your memory and takes it out of the picture. and do another orthos run....if it passes then you know it is your memory
Edited by Wickedjuggla - 5/16/08 at 4:31am
My system
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Athlon x2 6400 BE 3.4 Ghz @ 1.425v m2n32 sli deluxe VisionTek ATI Radeon HD4850 2x 2g G SKILL 800mhz 
Hard DriveOSMonitorKeyboard
WD 150GB Raptor X | WD 500 gB HD Windows XP SP3 22" Westinghouse/ 17" samsung Logitech G15 
PowerCaseMouse
Antec 650 Earthwatts Full Tower Rocketfish G5 
  hide details  
Reply
My system
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Athlon x2 6400 BE 3.4 Ghz @ 1.425v m2n32 sli deluxe VisionTek ATI Radeon HD4850 2x 2g G SKILL 800mhz 
Hard DriveOSMonitorKeyboard
WD 150GB Raptor X | WD 500 gB HD Windows XP SP3 22" Westinghouse/ 17" samsung Logitech G15 
PowerCaseMouse
Antec 650 Earthwatts Full Tower Rocketfish G5 
  hide details  
Reply
post #8 of 34
you may need more vcore but that seems to be a nice chip
Coeus
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD FX4100 ASUS M5A97 looking for one G Skill 4x2gb  
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
Seagate 7200.9 160gb need Windows 7 Premium 64bit Dell UltraSharp 2001FP 
Power
need 
  hide details  
Reply
Coeus
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD FX4100 ASUS M5A97 looking for one G Skill 4x2gb  
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
Seagate 7200.9 160gb need Windows 7 Premium 64bit Dell UltraSharp 2001FP 
Power
need 
  hide details  
Reply
post #9 of 34
Set your cpu voltage in the bios to 1.45v and run orthos again.That would be as high as i would go on that chip with air.If you allready have it set at that then I would back the bus down a little bit and make another orthos run.Set your ram back up to 800MHz.It should run at that speed no higher than your bus is.

Allso download core temp so you can keep an eye on temps.
Edited by Sasquatch in Space - 5/16/08 at 4:29am
HAVOK
(15 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
q9650 Asus Striker II Formula/Lapped NB/1*50mm 2x Asus GTX 560Ti DCII  Corsair Dominators  
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
2*400GB Cudas in Raid0/1*500Gb Cuda LiteOn 20X DVD +/- RW Xigmatek S1283 Vista HP x64 SP2/XP Pro x86 SP3 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
DELL E228WFP Logi Ol Skool G15 Corsair TX850w Antec 1200 
MouseMouse PadAudio
Logi MX518 None Creative X-Fi Titanium 
  hide details  
Reply
HAVOK
(15 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
q9650 Asus Striker II Formula/Lapped NB/1*50mm 2x Asus GTX 560Ti DCII  Corsair Dominators  
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
2*400GB Cudas in Raid0/1*500Gb Cuda LiteOn 20X DVD +/- RW Xigmatek S1283 Vista HP x64 SP2/XP Pro x86 SP3 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
DELL E228WFP Logi Ol Skool G15 Corsair TX850w Antec 1200 
MouseMouse PadAudio
Logi MX518 None Creative X-Fi Titanium 
  hide details  
Reply
post #10 of 34
Thread Starter 
ok guys
what ever you say i will try and i found a little fan for n.bridge first i will put it on then step by step i will try what you say.then i will let you know what happens .today i also bought a very big case from 315.hand me and brother will modify it for better cooling.
thank you for all your comments.
we gonna make it together and i will learn more because of your helps.
Ahbab System
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD 64 Athlon X2 6400+ Black Edition Gigabyte gA-MA790x DS4 (Rev.1) Sapphire HD 3870 GDDR4 Single Slot 4x1 gb PQI DDR2 800mhz 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
250 Gb Seagate 7200.10 16mb cache sata2 Sony Nec DVD Rw Vista Home Premium 64bit Dell 19" 
PowerCase
OCZ StealthXStream 600W A big Case very BIG 
  hide details  
Reply
Ahbab System
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD 64 Athlon X2 6400+ Black Edition Gigabyte gA-MA790x DS4 (Rev.1) Sapphire HD 3870 GDDR4 Single Slot 4x1 gb PQI DDR2 800mhz 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
250 Gb Seagate 7200.10 16mb cache sata2 Sony Nec DVD Rw Vista Home Premium 64bit Dell 19" 
PowerCase
OCZ StealthXStream 600W A big Case very BIG 
  hide details  
Reply
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: AMD CPUs
Overclock.net › Forums › AMD › AMD CPUs › OC AMD Athlon X2 Dual-Core 6400+ (ADX6400CZBOX)