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which is exactly where i am directing this..... 2.4ghz on a C2D or C2Q is fine, smoother gameplay comes from 2 areas, read write time on your primary HD, and graphic card......

in order to get the 20fps scenes up to 40, the 80fps scenes go up to 150 =) and i know it doesnt make a diff cause of refresh blah blah blah, but god damn if it aint sweet looking at your games flying with max res, max quality, high FPS and not even a hiccup from the system..
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I say go with a quad. The future of gaming will be quad optimized. Some already are.

Besides the difference between 3.6 (most common OC for Q6600) vs 4.0 (most common OC for an e8400) is very minimal. The difference you have to take into account is 4x3.6 or 2x4.0

e8400 does use less power though
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which is exactly where i am directing this..... 2.4ghz on a C2D or C2Q is fine, smoother gameplay comes from 2 areas, read write time on your primary HD, and graphic card......

in order to get the 20fps scenes up to 40, the 80fps scenes go up to 150 =) and i know it doesnt make a diff cause of refresh blah blah blah, but god damn if it aint sweet looking at your games flying with max res, max quality, high FPS and not even a hiccup from the system..
Smoother gameplay comes from all area's.

Occasional slowing in new area's is usually the HDD being paged, however that is usually caused by not enough RAM, not a slow HDD.

I would recommend Quad, as computers are used for much much more than just games. In addition most games really don't see much of a boost past 3.0-3.4 ghz (for Conroe arch.)
    
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the diff in performance is trully minimal

if you want good gaming, focus on vid card... get a better one, or go SLI
CPU + VIDEO card needs to work together in order to get good results

Example: I had an AMD Dual Core 5400+ with 8800gtx and my fps was very low compare to my friend computer. He even also had an 8800gtx and everything was the same as my computer. BUT the only difference he had was an Intel e8400. Ones I got my Intel Q6700 it made my fps double. I was Shocked in the increase of performance. I used to be an AMD Fan but now pshhhh Intel is the best.

If you have a weak CPU with an amazing GPU this will bottleneck you to the max. So please before you purchase a new video card make sure you have a good CPU that can support it. =)


So you see 10acjed it’s not all about Video Card or SLI. The point is with a terrible CPU you won’t get you anywhere.

Now back to Raydeon about your question my opinion is to get the Q6600 because overall the Q6600 can multi task better then E8400. But the E8400 would be better for gaming then the Q6600 but just by a little you probably won’t even notice. But other then games Q6600 beats it in everyway
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So you see 10acjed it’s not all about Video Card or SLI. The point is with a terrible CPU you won’t get you anywhere.
he said "focus on vid card"

the CPU only does so much for a game. communicates between the RAM, CPU, hard drive, and then tells the GPU what to do. the GPU is what renders every frame for viewing pleasure. That is why the GPU is like a mini computer in itself (has its own processor, RAM, etc..)

see this thread
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I just base my opinion on my experience

Started with a E4300 @ 3.2 and 7900GT
went to a 8800GT - huge jump in gaming performance
next was a Q6600 @ 3.24 - minimal, if any increase in gaming performance
next was another 8800GT SLI - another huge gaming performance increase +went from 17" @ 1280x1024 to 22" WS @ 1680x1050

So im convinced, if you want good gaming performance, look at your vid card, the cpu choice should be decided on what else you want to use it for....


but just straight gaming cpu vs cpu the e8400 @ 4.2 will get you a good 5-7fps more than a q6600 @ 3.6 =)
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i think most games released from now on will use 4 cores, i purchased assassins creed, 3 weeks ago and it uses all 4
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I just base my opinion on my experience

Started with a E4300 @ 3.2 and 7900GT
went to a 8800GT - huge jump in gaming performance
next was a Q6600 @ 3.24 - minimal, if any increase in gaming performance
next was another 8800GT SLI - another huge gaming performance increase +went from 17" @ 1280x1024 to 22" WS @ 1680x1050

So im convinced, if you want good gaming performance, look at your vid card, the cpu choice should be decided on what else you want to use it for....


but just straight gaming cpu vs cpu the e8400 @ 4.2 will get you a good 5-7fps more than a q6600 @ 3.6 =)


Well, I think thereason you didn't see much improvement with the Q was due to the 17" monitor. If you had the 22" when you made the CPU switch, I think you would have noticed a bigger difference. Also, the 5-7 FPS increase is complete speculation. Based on the GFX card, motitor, res, game, background apps etc. It will be much more with some and less with others.

As far as quad core optimization, very few games are coded for it. It will be more than a year or so until it becomes mainstream. the programing needs time to catch up with the hardware. The biggest advantage to a Q in gaming is all due to other applications running while gaming and not the gaming itself.
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As others as have said, it all depends on whether you want to multitask or not while gaming. Tom's Hardware just did an excellent article on upgrading and they basic concluded that it's best to upgrade the video card to the next generation to achieve the best in 3D performance.

The G92's benefit from CPU's with base clock rates of 2.4 or higher or else you lose 3D performance. Quads need to be OC'ed to the same clock rate to as duals to enjoy the same performance bumps.

Check out the article here.

There's also a neat chart. The columns on the left show the starting point and you move to the right to see what CPU & GPU pair you're thinking of getting to see the over performance jump.

Check it out here.


Hope that helps.

I got a Q9300 that should be on my doorstep when i get home, so I say go Quad.

Yep i switched from Green to Blue!
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I would go quadcore
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