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Have you guys seen crysis pefromance. The 7950GT kills all 8800 series. How is that possible. This means if you SLI like 2*7900GTX you can max out crysis.
That's real interesting.. given that the 7950 doesn't even support DX10
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Shame they haven't done it for SLi setups too, it'd be nice to have real proof to drop these two dinosaurs. But I love them so =D

It is obvious, but it's good to see just how much performance difference there is - so you take this into account and balance gaming performance with more CPU intensive tasks when considering an upgrade.
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Games are GPU dependednt what more is there that needs to be said.
Valve games are more cpu dependant
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haha...agreeed...I`m doing that with new config I`ll be buying...Which one of 2xxx series though (for minimum volt 3Ghz OC)?
Probably a E2160 but there's no way to say how one CPU will OC with 100% certainty. Definitely time for an upgrade my friend.

On Topic: Very good read. I should be set for a good while then with my OCed E2140.
Edited by Ben the OCer - 5/18/08 at 4:15pm
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Probably a E2160 but there's no way to say how one CPU will OC with 100% certainty. Definitely time for an upgrade my friend.
I know, I`ve been reading about OC for 2years...still I have a feeling many new questions will emerge when I get ino practise...
everyone suggest e2160 cause apparently newer ones e2180 etc aren`t so good...
still if I get some more money, and grab an e7xxx...it would be a dream come true....
    
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I was reading this article last Friday, and was wondering when Linskindom would post it--looks like he was beaten to it, LOL!

I think for many of us on OCN, we have a good instinct of what we should upgrade for better in-game performance, but for the non-enthusiast-turning-enthusiast, this is a good article, though confusing at the beginning. The conclusions in the article might seem common-sense to us, but I agree with one of the previous posters--questions are asked every day, "do I upgrade my CPU or my GFX card...?" many times a day--now, instead of just saying our opinion, there's some sort of proof--which is good. Perhaps this article will go in my sig for quick reference...
    
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I know, I`ve been reading about OC for 2years...still I have a feeling many new questions will emerge when I get ino practise...
everyone suggest e2160 cause apparently newer ones e2180 etc aren`t so good...
still if I get some more money, and grab an e7xxx...it would be a dream come true....
It'll all depend on the stepping (batch quality) of the chip and the VID to be honest--you want a good stepping (previously, for the e2180's, The M0 stepping was the best OC'er (coincidentally, the 2180's were only M0 stepping--the 2140's and 2160's of M0 stepping were also good OC'ers). Now, I believe the M0 stepping 2160's seem to OC better than the 2180's.
    
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I know, I`ve been reading about OC for 2years...still I have a feeling many new questions will emerge when I get ino practise...
everyone suggest e2160 cause apparently newer ones e2180 etc aren`t so good...
still if I get some more money, and grab an e7xxx...it would be a dream come true....
You know you can OC that Duron, don't you? The nostalgy... First decent OC I ever did was on a Duron 750MHz spitfire, worked at 1100MHz (and with a huge performance gain) on a slightly modified ECS K7S5A. Look at the socket A OCing guide at www.ocinside.de and you'll see that with a sure hand and a B-type conductive crayon you can make that Duron quite decent. If you need a cooler try a Thermaltake BigTyphoon as it is compatible with everything from socket A, 939, AM2 to LGA 775 and it's quite good.

There are many things involved for a good OC, and you should remember that the most important (by far) is the motherboard. Even the best OCing CPU is useless on a bad mobo, while on a decent mobo you can place just about any CPU from a certain generation and get a good OC. If you start with a 2140, a 4300 or a 7200, these are just details, any of them would fare well in a good mobo. The article above shows that at least for gaming, a 2.4GHz dual core cpu can hold it's own real well as long as you don't count in the uber-expensive quad SLI and crossfireX.

I linked this article because what lacks the reviews nowadays is common sense and this one was the opposite. The introductive part, quite frankly, I haven't read it. I find that computer geeks have little tallent in coming up with a nice story to get the reader's expectation high, the best place to begin reading a review is usually the second page. My 2 cents
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post #29 of 33
I think this effectively illustrates the point the GPU is generally more important than the CPU when it comes to gaming.

For those of you that mentioned the 7950GT "beat" the 8/9 series cards:

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Note that the Geforce 6800 GT and Geforce 7950 GT run with the image quality set at Low (1280, 1680, 1920 pixels) and at Medium (1280 pixels), whereas the Geforce 8 and 9 were tested at High (1280, 1680, 1920 pixels) and Very High (1280 pixels). These settings are necessary for the older graphics card to be in a position to send a playable number of frames to the monitor. These differences mean that sometimes a weaker graphics chip can move up to a higher position in the rankings than a more powerful Geforce 8 or 9. The better frame rate is, in these cases, only achieved by reducing the image quality.
I agree that testing methodology is rather silly. TH should test them at the same graphics level/detail. Otherwise, where's the objectivity in that??
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post #30 of 33
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I think this effectively illustrates the point the GPU is generally more important than the CPU when it comes to gaming.

For those of you that mentioned the 7950GT "beat" the 8/9 series cards:



I agree that testing methodology is rather silly. TH should test them at the same graphics level/detail. Otherwise, where's the objectivity in that??
Thanks for pointing that out, that confused me too, and i even read that paragraph!
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