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Originally Posted by cgrado View Post
Between playing CS:S pub and COD4, TF2 and BF2 I can say that CS:S is WAY more about indivdual skill than TF2 and BF2. COD4 is inbetween. In CS:S I can simply run pick off a couple good headshots with an AK and half their team is gone. Playing TDM in CoD4 I can run around and slaughter half their team, but because of instant dynamic respawning, you never really win and it's all about getting as many kills as you can, hoping your team is good and doesn't get raped. However in BF2 and TF2, you HAVE to use teamwork to accomplish anything. Nowhere near as good for individuals hoping to prove individual point and click reaction skill.
Go play some high skill 5v5s on CS, and then tell me theres no teamwork or tactics involved. When you're playing on your own, you're right there is no tactics. 5v5s are a whole different story.
post #72 of 94
he's overhyped, and i think he's afraid if he comes back he'll be outclassed by better gamers.

he should just live off of those royalties IMO
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This just means he needs to learn more than one skill. Sure there aren't games new out there that showcase his one skill..

GET SOME MORE SKILL YOU DUMBASS!!! All he does is bunnyhop and grab armor/wep/powerups constantly.. If he had any true skill he could play more games.. He can get better at ET: Quake Wars, and CS:S for that matter.. plenty of tournament play there..
If you bunnyhop you have a lesser chance of getting hit, if you get better items in a DM game you have a better chance of survival - it's that simple YOU DUMBASS!!! ET:QW doesn't play like a Quake game (not because it isn't DM, but because it's FUBAR'd) CS:S is actually fun.
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Games get more and more crap in it.
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For the record CAMPING IS WEAK and a losers way to gain stats and points. I am not sure if you were supporting camping but it is weak. If you are against it then more power to you fello gamer.
huh? nah i was responding to blkcrow saying that campers in cod4 are hard to kill.... im just statying what i do to kill them. lol.
    
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How come no one has mentioned Splinter Cell? I haven't played Double Agent's multiplayer but i loved Pandora Tomorrow and Chaos Theory. I would play with 3 other friends all the time and I always thought it was pretty damn tactical. It's a lot easier to get killed as a Spy if you just rush in, it's more about staying out of sight and completing the objective and that can be ****ing hard if you have good mercenaries on the other team. It's not 100% FPS (you're third person as spy but first person as mercenary)
Edited by Irvine33 - 5/18/08 at 12:28pm
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Either that or he just plain sucks at COD4.
50 bucks says he'd rape you at it.
    
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post #78 of 94
the real reason is he doesnt want to make an ass out of his reputation cuz he would get his ass kicked in todays games.
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who here has played 1.6? and competitively? and who here is bashing 1.6 for not being tactical? if anyone here has done both, try playing 1.6 without vent, ts, or any other voice talking thing and then say it isnt tactical. i will admit 1.6 isnt the most tactical game, but there is a reason some still do play it very professionally and thats because its an amazing game that challenges alot from a person and from a team. in 1.6, a team of 5 decent people can beat a team of 2 really good people and 3 noobs. teamwork is very important in it, such as where people should go, where to smoke, when to smoke, where to flash, when to flash, etc. i cant say anything about other games because i have never played them competitively and i hope others will start doing that as well: dont bash what you dont know
I have actually played cal main for 1.6 and CSS and I can honestly say that CS is not tactical at all along with most of the other small map based FPS's. Mainly because the maps are so small and everything is very predictable once you get to a certain skill level. Things like prefiring people in the face and shooting people through a common spam spot through ten feet of concrete take no skill whatsoever.

Also, CS/CSS are both extremely random games and any team can pretty much win a match due to randomness. I have seen a lot of random things go down in CS/CSS that leads me to believe even further that the game isn't really tactical at all. Also, smokes/flashes do very little in CS/CSS. I have seen plenty of people ace and take out the other players through smoke or while blind just because most flash/smoke spots are also choke points so its easy to just spray and get random kills. You can also see through smoke in CSS even though they cant see you if you are on the right side of the smoke.

So all of those things combined lead me to believe that CS/CSS are not tactical at all and are more random than anything, I remember a few times where I saved with a deagle and ended up taking out 4 people with 1 deags across the map by just shooting randomly. If anything I would have to say that COD4 is more tactical than CS/CSS due to the fact that the maps are much, MUCH bigger than the maps in CS and the fact that its 6V6 in most COD4 leagues means that theres more team work. Also, the use of perks and there not being any true prefire spots means less randomness and more strategy being used.

Another thing about CS/CSS that I don't like is that at times you can be aiming dead on their face when they are standing still and the shot wont hit them in the face due to the random shooting patterns with some of the guns. As for the people that are saying that CS 1.6 has better hitbox registration, those people are generally bad at CSS and are the type that complain when they miss easy shots and blame it on hitboxes or the server. Both games have the same level of hitbox detection. The only bad thing about CSS registration is that it suffers from bad interp and its easy to peak out and take shots without them seeing you. ( which also takes no skill)
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Or maybe he isn't the best anymore. And if people realise this if he starts losing he can say bye bye to his franchise
He's made enough money already to pretty much retire, if he knows how to save. Even so, he could easily call up his old sponsors and they will be at his doorstep, with contracts ready in hand.
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