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I play most at around 20-35 cuz *points down to rig* and im fine with it. 20FPS is fine for TF2.
    
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Yeah. Anything above 20fps is enough to be considered "enjoyable".
Huh? How is that enjoyable? It is tolerable but enjoyable?
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Huh? How is that enjoyable? It is tolerable but enjoyable?
In most games (in my opinon of course) 20FPS is enough to be enjoyable.. anything less is not though... but its still playable.

But it really does depend on how well the game is coded and how it handles low FPS.
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According to this, it is a bit more complex than simply registering FPS:

http://www.100fps.com/how_many_frame...humans_see.htm


edit: I would also like to add that I believe I am happy with lower FPS than some others due to my age. If you all grew up playing Intellivision and Atari and Commadore's, you would be surprised at how low your standards can become
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And i tough using the same clock speeds and using processors that has the same ammount of L2 cache would have been logical.
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I knew someone would say this, I am afraid that doesn't explain why more fps makes things look smoother...

It seems impossible that the human eye only see's 30fps... I also beleive that this is some stupid assumption and is innacurate.
Human eye only sees 24. HOWEVER the reason more FPS feels smoother is it's all thanks to the monitor.
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According to this, it is a bit more complex than simply registering FPS:

http://www.100fps.com/how_many_frame...humans_see.htm


edit: I would also like to add that I believe I am happy with lower FPS than some others due to my age. If you all grew up playing Intellivision and Atari and Commadore's, you would be surprised at how low your standards can become
+rep. well that makes ense.
   
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Wow is so surprised none of you guys sad anything about Phenoms. You can clearly see Phenom 9850 kill Q6600 in every game.
:O what?? the 9850 in no way "kills" the q6600 in every game. the q6600 is better in some games and the 9850 is better in other games. Also the the 9850 runs at 2.5ghz and still isnt as good as the q6600 not to mention how much u can OC the q6600, nobody runs their q6600 at 2.4ghz lol
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I stopped reading the review when they said <30FPS = Very Limited Gameplay.



Wrong on so many levels.. even 15FPS is playable.
depends on the game.

RTS tend to be fine.
crysis tends to be fine

CSS hl2 all go to hell.
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i feel like 30 is bare minimum. anything fallin to 25 and below is like... choppy for me. i get 15 fps in crysis and... i cannot play the game. since if i get 15fps average, i get like 8 fps in intense gun fights etc.

i agree with <30 fps limited gameplay but only in FPShooter games (very much so if you're playing online)
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