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Originally Posted by MasterKromm View Post
http://forum.donanimhaber.com/m_23295300/tm.htm



Legit? We'll see. Those specs do look nice though!

-EDIT-

I think the site is in Turkish, I'm not really sure though... Can anyone translate?
Now, with those specs, it would really seem that Nvidia is trying to figure out what bitrate is best for their cards. Wouldn't it have made more sense to do that with the current models? I mean, what with the next best thing always being on the horizon, and speaking generally for the consumer, shouldn't they have done this for the 9X00 series? It's seriously a falling short of anything after the 8800 series. 256/384/512/768 MB cards. All within the range of 128-384-bit, and all what you'd expect from one of the biggest guns in graphics.

Yeah yeah yeah, you've got the price/performance factor, and you've got the benchmarks of the trust of Nvidia from everything their enterprises have placed before us as representation of these models. It just seems to me that it would have made more sense to implement these with the 65-55nm chipsets. That way, they could hone the compassing of the transistor maps as they scale it thinner and thinner. At some point, it will become increasingly harder to build and fill the wafer for these processors, unless they build it layer by layer (speculative), and tighten things up as they go along.

I've got no problem with the 280 model, but as for this for this 260 model, it's redundant to give an 8800GTX(768MB) a physics buffer(PhysX was 128MB) ...(so 768+128=896). 768MB makes more sense than 896MB for a card. Hell, you're just shaving 128MB off the 280. Why not keep it? It's more of a laugh than the homage to perfection they think it is by giving it an offset rounded bitrate, unless these cards blow even a 9800GX2 out of the water with any or all of the above: bitrate, bandwidth, general performance, power consumption, or the ever so popular drivers Nvidia poops out at random, thinking it will cure all ills. What they need to do is quit thinking like a bunch of hive-minded crackheads with the sole intent of puking out product that should be good enough for at least half a year in the market. I'm getting sick of seeing new cards every month.
Edited by zorpnic - 5/18/08 at 12:00am
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post #32 of 51
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I've got no problem with the 280 model, but as for this for this 260 model, it's redundant to give an 8800GTX(768MB) a physics buffer(PhysX was 128MB) ...(so 768+128=896). 768MB makes more sense than 896MB for a card. Hell, you're just shaving 128MB off the 280. Why not keep it? It's more of a laugh than the homage to perfection they think it is by giving it an offset rounded bitrate
I don't think it has anything to do with aesthetics, the amount of memory a card has needs to be a multiple of it's bus width I think. Remember that the size of the memory bus isn't actually 512-bit, its actually a multiple of 32 or 64. (32x8 for 256 and 64x8 for 512). I think this has something to do with the number of memory modules allowed, and by going with a nonstandard memory bus like 64x6 for the G80 (for 384bit) they limit the amount of memory allowed to a multiple of 64x6.
    
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GTX 260 looks to uneven.
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Why does Nvidia keep coming up with these weird buses, 384 bit, now 448? ...???
How are they weird?

Most (G)DDR ICs are 32-bit devices organized into 64-bit banks/channels/whatever. Memory bandwidth and size requirements, tempered by the realities of cost dictate how many of these there will be.

With the G80, NVIDIA decided it would be a good idea to use 6x64, to ensure they got the bandwidth needed for that GPU. The size of each IC (32 or 64mib each) dictated the total memory size. When they wanted a lower performing card (the GTS), they left one of the memory channels/banks empty (using 10 chips instead of 12 and using cheaper 32MiB ICs).

With the new cards they are doing the same thing. You have a 512-bit flagship card, then a cheaper card on the same, or similar PCB with one of the memory units left off. 512 - 64 = 448. Lets them use the same PCB for both cards, if they choose.

It's pretty simple.

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GTX 260 looks to uneven.
How do you figure?
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GTX 260 looks to uneven.
How do you figure?
i dont care what the bitbus is as long as it performs well. hopefully the price point on the 260 is good.
   
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not impressed with the 260, and i wonder about the pricei will wait to see benches before i truly hold an opinion, but IMO they could have done better, considering all the cash the made off of the 8 series...

that said, i'ma go with ATI again... they've proivided me with a way better experience than my 8800GT has
Edited by -iceblade^ - 5/18/08 at 7:35am
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I've had no major problems with the G80s or G92s.

Price vs. performance is going to be the deciding factor in the card I choose next. If the 260 is cheap enough, it could very well be my next card.
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so did nvidia abandon the dual core gpu idea? or is there something else behind the corner waiting for us?
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896mb? What the hell kind of number is that? And would the 280 beat the gx2 because of its 512-bit interface?
Edited by mth91 - 5/18/08 at 8:45am
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No DX10.1?

I know, not a big deal. But Id expected that on nVIDIA´s "next" generation.
QFT

Seriously, Nvidia, get your act together.
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