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post #21 of 101
Let's wait and see... but if 20% is going to be all.... man, that'll be a HUGE disappointment for sure.
    
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This is promising, though I agree with some of the posters here, we can not take this 100%. The release product is what we should be worried about. As for Sazar's post, the merger, though placing AMD is a small fiscal fiasco, has been good for both companies, the video cards from ATi are looking good and the AMD chipsets are decent. The performance may not bee what people were expecting and/or hoping for, but you have to remember the price points that these will be placed at. AMD is planning at pricing these competitively, so this cards will probably be pretty good for the price.
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So would a 4870 be a good upgrade from a 8800GT price/performance-wise?
I spent $300 for my 8800GT the 1st day they were out so I'll probably wait to see what happens.
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they always get better as drivers mature.
People always tend to say that about ATI cards but it isn't true and it never happens. I am willing to put money on it that it will do terrible in Crysis just like the rest of the ATI cards do and it will be about a 5-10% increase over the 9800GTX in reality. The reason why I said that the GT200 is going to smoke it is because it is the truth.
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post #25 of 101
this is a great improvement it beats the 8800GTX that says something that soviet Army... i mean ati is coming back
    
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How am i being negative?
20% isnt that great looking into the past, im telling u guys to stop crying that they are this ****ty, hopefully with better drivers they will be better, or this whole news may be bs
Considering the 3870 was 5-10% slower than the 8800GT, this is like a 50% improvement over the previous generation. What exactly were you expecting? We knew all the rumors, the new cores aren't dramatic redesigns, it's just an enhancement of the previous parts.
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Thats it.........
I guess that GT200 is going to smoke it than.
Pretty much.... (assuming the performance rumors circulating are true)

Also, the 8800 Ultra may even be as fast or almost as fast as the 4870, seeing as it outperforms the 9800GTX
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post #28 of 101
What we're expecting is simple: an ATI card that can go toe-to-toe with an nVidia card of the SAME generation.

If they keep lagging about half a generation behind... they're gonna be in trouble.
    
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post #29 of 101
id rather have a card that costs $300 and gets 40-50 fps in crysis then one that costs $600 and gets 60-70. uber highend cards that cost $600 are not worth it at all when you can get one that will do very well for about half the price. AMD has gone for the group of people with a budget, and it has worked very well. i think this is a great move as long as it is priced accordingly.
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post #30 of 101
40-50 to 60-70 is quite a noticeable increase, and I am tired of complex shader heavy games lagging in heavy scenes, even if the "average" fps is close to that of an nvidia card, as well as terrible high res/aa support. Let's see the 4870 play crysis at 2048x1536 on very high with full AA, and compare it to an 8800 Ultra or 9800GTX at the same settings.
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