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Also the only thing they show is 3dmark fps. I want actual life game fps. If you guys could get a 4870X2 for as much as you can get a 3870X2 they why spend much more for 1 single nvidia card.
3DMark has generally be friendly to ATI... thus, the fact that they only gain 20% isn't good news at all.
    
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but compare to the 1.5x times better than 3870 thats a win right there
    
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In all fairness, the GPU in the Xbox 360 is the R500, to which the R600 (2900) was the successor ... and significantly more powerful.

And somehow, the 360 is able to have graphics that are really damn good, better than the PC in some cases. And yet, with simpler games, the R600 chokes on the PC and has crap performance.

What gives?

And no, it's not a secret that the 2900 and 3870 have weak shading performance, and that is one of the main things that pulls them down compared to nvidia.
Everything about the hardware on each 360 is exactly the same (in terms of performance). Only factor I can think of is hard disk space. Hardly any factors allows them to design the game around one thing.
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Good for ATI. That's a solid perofmrance increase, not enough to make me want to upgrade but then again, I was playing with a 7800GT until just this spring.
    
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Just in 3DMark 06 that isn't very impressive. If that equates to similar performance in most games (especially with AA/AF enabled), then we've got something reasonably exciting on our hands. Not quite the killer some people were expecting (or at least hoping for), but it will help ATI gain back some market share, especially if we see more from DirectX 10.1 now that Vista SP1 is out. Some of the optimizations seem like exactly what DirectX 10 needs.
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Guys, the 4870 isnt supposed to beat the 9900GTX/Ultra. Those cards will be 600-700$... these cards are under 300$. when you consider the peformance increase of 80% on the 4870X2(CrossFire doesn't scale perfectly) that is 100% better than the 9800GTX and who knows how much better(or worse) than the 9900GTX/Ultra. But the 4870X2 should be ~500$.. so even then cheaper than the next gen nVidia.
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Wow, whoever put that tag in must be 8 years old....
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Guys, the 4870 isnt supposed to beat the 9900GTX/Ultra. Those cards will be 600-700$... these cards are under 300$. when you consider the peformance increase of 80% on the 4870X2(CrossFire doesn't scale perfectly) that is 100% better than the 9800GTX and who knows how much better(or worse) than the 9900GTX/Ultra. But the 4870X2 should be ~500$.. so even then cheaper than the next gen nVidia.
COULD not agre more. Nicely sad.
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The 4870 looks like a solid card for a new build but not worth upgrading for me. After the rush is done and the price settles, I might grab me one.
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post #50 of 101
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Everything about the hardware on each 360 is exactly the same (in terms of performance). Only factor I can think of is hard disk space. Hardly any factors allows them to design the game around one thing.
No, the Xbox 360 uses the ATI R500 GPU (no PC cards based on it ever made). The R500 was ATI's first attempt at a unified shader architecture, and it proved quite successful. The R600, which was used in the 2900 series of graphics cards, was heavily based on the R500, but quantitatively improved in all aspects, and also had a die shrink.
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