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Im going to have blocks on the CPU,NB, and the MOSFETs.

I've read through the newbie water cooling threads on a few sites and still have a few questions.

1. when leak testing everyone says it should be done outside the case(for obvious reasons ). So, how am i suppose to go about this seeing as how the pump wont start without turning the MB on? Also, am i suppose to set the tubing and blocks up on the MB and then take them off and test it outside? it would seem that remounting them would be a pain once all the tubing is connected(especially on the NB,MOSFET). suggestions?

2. when cleaning the loop should i just run distilled water throught the system? would that clean it sufficiently? i read vinegar works good but also eats away at the copper. i was thinking i could just boil some tap water to make it distilled. is that fine?

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To turn the pump on you only need to turn on your psu, look for jump-starting PSU tutorials, if im not mistaken you put a paperclip between a green and a black wire on the 20(24) pin PSU connector, and your PSU will turn on, thus you can use it to run the pump.

Found the FAQ on jumpstarting PSU, look it up here.
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thanks will do.

any other suggestions?
   
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i was thinking i could just boil some tap water to make it distilled. is that fine?

thanks in advance

Just go buy some "distilled water", rinse out your pot with "distilled water", boil some "distilled water", and use it to clean your radiator... Why "boiling distilled water" on your blocks???

Tap water has minerals in it that are conductive, don't believe you will be "boiling" them out... Read somewhere "reverse osmosis" still leaves minerals in the water...

Me personally, I would never use VINEGAR to clean anything copper in my loop... Try ketchup to clean your blocks, but rinse well with "distilled water" afterwards. There is small amount of vinegar in ketchup...
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You can buy distilled water in some health food shops or a pharmacy...I read the best thing to clean a loop was a vinegar solution...
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You can buy distilled water at any super market. When you leak test, you will do so for 24 hours, drain that water and that should be enough to clean a full loop that you have got. use your jump PSU to refill the loop once you have it installed to stop and flow it so the bubbles don't burn out the pump as you fill.
http://www.petrastechshop.com/pepcobi1.html and something like this http://www.petrastechshop.com/peg12coaduvr.html should kill any thing you miss.
    
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Just go buy some "distilled water", rinse out your pot with "distilled water", boil some "distilled water", and use it to clean your radiator... Why "boiling distilled water" on your blocks???

Tap water has minerals in it that are conductive, don't believe you will be "boiling" them out... Read somewhere "reverse osmosis" still leaves minerals in the water...

Me personally, I would never use VINEGAR to clean anything copper in my loop... Try ketchup to clean your blocks, but rinse well with "distilled water" afterwards. There is small amount of vinegar in ketchup...

i meant boil water to make it distilled and then use it not boil the blocks

i can see ya making the quotation sign with your fingers lol

good tip on the ketchup. thnx
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Originally Posted by SerenityKill3r View Post
You can buy distilled water in some health food shops or a pharmacy...I read the best thing to clean a loop was a vinegar solution...
ill check my local pharmacy i guess then. thank you
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You can buy distilled water at any super market. When you leak test, you will do so for 24 hours, drain that water and that should be enough to clean a full loop that you have got. use your jump PSU to refill the loop once you have it installed to stop and flow it so the bubbles don't burn out the pump as you fill.
http://www.petrastechshop.com/pepcobi1.html and something like this http://www.petrastechshop.com/peg12coaduvr.html should kill any thing you miss.
thanks

so, i guess theres no way around putting the blocks on the motherboard, tubing them,taking it off,run the system to check for leaks, and then remounting with tubing in place.

+REPS


EDIT: i found this about jump starting a psu if anyone is interested

http://truecustompc.com/index.php?op...id=5&Itemid=11
Edited by kkbob33 - 5/18/08 at 10:04am
   
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Just go buy some "distilled water", rinse out your pot with "distilled water", boil some "distilled water", and use it to clean your radiator... Why "boiling distilled water" on your blocks???

Tap water has minerals in it that are conductive, don't believe you will be "boiling" them out... Read somewhere "reverse osmosis" still leaves minerals in the water...

Me personally, I would never use VINEGAR to clean anything copper in my loop... Try ketchup to clean your blocks, but rinse well with "distilled water" afterwards. There is small amount of vinegar in ketchup...
ketchup..................
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Originally Posted by kkbob33 View Post
Im going to have blocks on the CPU,NB, and the MOSFETs.

I've read through the newbie water cooling threads on a few sites and still have a few questions.

1. when leak testing everyone says it should be done outside the case(for obvious reasons ). So, how am i suppose to go about this seeing as how the pump wont start without turning the MB on? Also, am i suppose to set the tubing and blocks up on the MB and then take them off and test it outside? it would seem that remounting them would be a pain once all the tubing is connected(especially on the NB,MOSFET). suggestions?

2. when cleaning the loop should i just run distilled water throught the system? would that clean it sufficiently? i read vinegar works good but also eats away at the copper. i was thinking i could just boil some tap water to make it distilled. is that fine?

thanks in advance
1] I just build mine yesterday, and heres what I did. I pulled the motherboard and psu out of the old computer and into the new one, mounted everything and ran the tubing. I plugged in the pump to the molex connector, filled the loop, and jumped the psu (There is an FAQ). I just leak tested with some distilled. It was clear my stuff didnt leak, so I drained the loop as much as I could, and filled it with Feser One. I bled it for a while, then installed everything.

2] People suggest using vinegar because there may be some trace oil left inside. It's up to you, its not going to change much. You will have to flush the loop a lot if you do.
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1] I just build mine yesterday, and heres what I did. I pulled the motherboard and psu out of the old computer and into the new one, mounted everything and ran the tubing. I plugged in the pump to the molex connector, filled the loop, and jumped the psu (There is an FAQ). I just leak tested with some distilled. It was clear my stuff didnt leak, so I drained the loop as much as I could, and filled it with Feser One. I bled it for a while, then installed everything.

2] People suggest using vinegar because there may be some trace oil left inside. It's up to you, its not going to change much. You will have to flush the loop a lot if you do.
so did you leave everything on the board when you leak tested?
   
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