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Nice job. Those are great temps.

BTW don't bash all the water coolers. I have seen plenty of them tell people to get the TRUE over a cheap set-up as they know it works better than the BigWater coolers.
I wish I could get some of those ones here. I'm getting all the, well, I won't go that way but you know what I mean. I think we all get a laugh when it comes to Thermaltake and Koolance, though.

Oh and sorry I can't stay here all day. I've been here for about 5 hours, time to go do something else lol. Feel free to leave suggestions on anything else I can do! Or just compliment, which is also appreciated
Edited by Adrienspawn - 5/18/08 at 12:47pm
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I for one will congratulate you on the lap job and mod, as I know from personal experience that achieving good results with air cooling can take time and in many cases lots of patience (especially when it comes to lapping the TRUE)

I for one am in favour of water cooling but as said above it can be quite expensive which is why many of us air cool just like I am for now, sticking with the TRUE. From what I can tell Adrienspawn is only showing everyone here at OCN his personal success with air cooling, he's not saying that it beats all watercooling setups, He is saying that for not a lot of money it can do a pretty god job competing with SOME water cooling systems
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I still don't understand why people can't just admire all the work this guy did to get better temps.

So if you got a 4ghz OC on water and I got a 4ghz OC on air, I shouldn't be happy and post my results? The whole point of this site is to try cool stuff and see how it works. This guy puts hours of work into air cooling mods to get better temps and you refuse to recognize this.
Don't get me wrong, i really do appreciate it. I mean as seen as he has proven his 1.5Vcore as well. But i bet under a 7 hour test or in most games he will see a rise to about 50C. But still, on a quad with a TRUE that is simple amazing compared to some other users temps. I just don't agree with the way he disregarded WC, but hey each to his own.
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Don't get me wrong, i really do appreciate it. I mean as seen as he has proven his 1.5Vcore as well. But i bet under a 7 hour test or in most games he will see a rise to about 50C. But still, on a quad with a TRUE that is simple amazing compared to some other users temps. I just don't agree with the way he disregarded WC, but hey each to his own.
I just went 2 hours in TF2 and didnt break 40, but I guess that doesn't count, right? And I didn't and don't disregard WC, try to find a quote from me proving so. At least you say you appreciate it.

I actually don't care for haters, just don't post hates on my thread plz

(make a thread called ''Why we hate adrienspawn'' lol)


PS: Anyone know if sanding the heatpipes would do anyting good? Or are the pipes fully aluminium? MOS-C1s on the pipes, anyone?
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The heatpipes should be copper.

Anyway, with regards to the whole air vs. water debate, it should be possible to get an air cooler that performed as well as or better than the best water cooling setups. Heatpipes are generally more efficent than water at moving heat around, so all you would need is an external heatsink with a greater surface area than the largest radiators. Not practical, but possible.
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Games don't usually stress the CPU as much as say Orthos or Prime. It's not like the game will be putting full load on all the cores.
As long as you keep pushing relatively low volts on the chip, and your room temp. stays reasonably low, that TRUE will keep it cool. The heatsink itself can dissipate a more than modest amount of heat, so it should be able to handle a substantial vcore increase, as long as the room temps. remain constantly low. If your room temperatures start increasing (80*F or so) efficiency will decrease; if that happens don't be surprised if you start loading at as much as 35*C above ambient. Air coolers, no matter how good they are, are more delicate towards changes in surrounding temperatures, than a water cooling system.
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Games don't usually stress the CPU as much as say Orthos or Prime. It's not like the game will be putting full load on all the cores.
As long as you keep pushing relatively low volts on the chip, and your room temp. stays reasonably low, that TRUE will keep it cool. The heatsink itself can dissipate a more than modest amount of heat, so it should be able to handle a substantial vcore increase, as long as the room temps. remain constantly low. If your room temperatures start increasing (80*F or so) efficiency will decrease; if that happens don't be surprised if you start loading at as much as 35*C above ambient. Air coolers, no matter how good they are, are more delicate towards changes in surrounding temperatures, than a water cooling system.
For some reason, though, games tend to heat up the cores as much as full-on Prime or Orthos. I guess the heat difference between 50% and 100% isn't so big.

And would a 6C difference in ambient really bring my load up by nearly 20C? I doubt the effects are that dreadful. Besides my ambients will only go up by 1 or 2 as summer goes on, but that will give me an excuse to open the windows. Then comes Montreal winters with their occasional -35C. I used to hate this city's weather, now I love it .
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For some reason, though, games tend to heat up the cores as much as full-on Prime or Orthos. I guess the heat difference between 50% and 100% isn't so big.

And would a 6C difference in ambient really bring my load up by nearly 20C? I doubt the effects are that dreadful. Besides my ambients will only go up by 1 or 2 as summer goes on, but that will give me an excuse to open the windows. Then comes Montreal winters with their occasional -35C. I used to hate this city's weather, now I love it .

You'd be surprised. I got a PC with a TRUE inside the house, which is temperature controlled. With a room temp. of 27*C it keeps an Opty 165 w/1.4V at a modest 45*C; but if I move that PC to my back office, which is always slightly warmer (2-3*C), then the thing starts loading at 50-55*C.
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You'd be surprised. I got a PC with a TRUE inside the house, which is temperature controlled. With a room temp. of 27*C it keeps an Opty 165 w/1.4V at a modest 45*C; but if I move that PC to my back office, which is always slightly warmer (2-3*C), then the thing starts loading at 50-55*C.
That makes sense. The opty's temps went up almost proportionally to the increase in ambient, instead of exponentially. Although I would need more people's accounts on un-temp controlled TRUEs on quads, and who aren't against me lol. And that ambient is high. 30C is the warmest it gets OUTSIDE in Montreal. Is room temperature not 18-22C? because a lot of people today have been talking about over-30C ambients, which scares me. Unless they live in the complete middle of an appartment without AC.
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Congratz on the mod man..very nice...Temps are also very good for air..nice one!
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