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I’ve had a Scythe Ninja Rev. B for the past couple of years and, although it served me well in the beginning, its performance has dropped through lackluster and settled at disappointing after a couple of reinstalls (due to a case change, mobo swap, etc.). After my most recent install the temps were nothing short of tragic; temps at 28*@idle (and only 3Gbs for my E6600), but shooting up to the high 60’s during CoD4 gameplay, After less than 1 minute of OCCT 2.0.0 the program shut down due to excessive temps.

I’d had a lot of trouble getting the pushpins to snap in during install a couple of weeks prior, but had finally gotten a definitive snap out of the last pin, and thought that was that.
So, I concluded that my thermal compound install must have been a little too liberal.

Meanwhile, a friend at work had a used, well-lapped Thermalright Ultra Extreme he no longer needed, having stepped up to watercooling, so I bought it (cheap), along with which came a tube of Artic Cool MX2. Although I’d been pushing nearly 80cfm through the Ninja, I ordered a Panaflo 120mm 104cfm fan to pop onto the TRUE. It is a 38mm deep fan which I’d wanted, but whose weight I’d been afraid to add to my pushpin HS. Within two days of the TRUE and fan’s arrival in my home the top right hand pushpin of Ninja let go while I was plugging a fan into the mobo!!! So, out it all came, in favour of the TRUE.

Since then my temps have NEVER been better (24/20 as I type this and 41/41 under full load - 3.284gb/1.375v). My temps have never been near this low, and that is the highest OC I’ve managed in my attempts with the new mobo.

I have gone online regarding the Ninja mounting issue, and came across an English language thread on the Scythe Germany support forum in which the poor connection issue (which turns out to be socket 775 specific) is roundly debated by a number of consumers and 1 Scythe representative. The consumers all agree that the mounting method of the Ninja is subpar, and that the backplate mounting kit of the TRUE, far superior, both for mechanical integrity and ease of use. It was left to the Scythe rep to (feebly, I thought) claim the connection is easier for the general populace, solicit PMs for the purpose of mailing out new pushpins, and hint vaguely at future improvements to the Ninja mounting system.

I respectfully submit to you all that the Scythe might best be avoided for a 775 board. For, although the HS is a capably powerful unit, in and of itself, the mounting system is demonstrably suspect. I further aver that I have never considered that I might enjoy such low temps on air as I am today with the TRUE (and MX2 compound).

Chalk up another vote for the Thermalrite.

BTW the Panaflo makes a reassuring, banshee like howl in my case, as it moves mountains of air over the fins of the HS.

Thanks for hearing me out.
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Eh, how much did you get the TRUE for?
    
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its Thermalright ,not thermalrite

and GHZ, not gb
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Wow then the OCZ Vendetta 2 is going to rock your socks! lol
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very nice. i am very very tempted to get a TRUE to replace my Big Typhoon. i would even put 2 x FM121 fans on it too for maximum air. debating if it would be a noticeable difference or not
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very nice. i am very very tempted to get a TRUE to replace my Big Typhoon. i would even put 2 x FM121 fans on it too for maximum air. debating if it would be a noticeable difference or not
It would, but go for the ULTRA KAZE instead, and for any doubts, see my sig
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Yup 2000rpm kaze, I will be getting one of those. Perfect, you'll be like the little guinea pig for testing the TRUE + DFI DK P35.
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very nice. i am very very tempted to get a TRUE to replace my Big Typhoon. i would even put 2 x FM121 fans on it too for maximum air. debating if it would be a noticeable difference or not
i have both and if $80 for a difference of 3C is worth it to you then go for it.

i have both heatsinks lapped and x1 FM121 (120x32mm the wider version) on the TRUE. only 3-4C difference. hope this helps in making a decision
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i have both and if $80 for a difference of 3C is worth it to you then go for it.

i have both heatsinks lapped and x1 FM121 (120x32mm the wider version) on the TRUE. only 3-4C difference. hope this helps in making a decision
He would still have the Typhoon which he could sell, and the TRUE would perform better on any new CPU's he could choose to buy. Also consider lapping your CPU for better contact, and feel free to bolt-mod that thing!
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He would still have the Typhoon which he could sell, and the TRUE would perform better on any new CPU's he could choose to buy. Also consider lapping your CPU for better contact, and feel free to bolt-mod that thing!
Sorry for being off topic, but how would someone bolt mod a TRUE? I plan on doing a lot of work on my comp and heatsink later this week and apply the washer mod to the TRUE. If this mod is simple enough I'll do it as well to get better temps.
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