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post #11 of 24
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Originally Posted by Zaxbys View Post
Get a Corsair 650watt Power supply for your needs. Its a monster and will definately be enough juice to power your rig.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817139005

And for the graphics card I recommend 2 X EVGA 8800GTS 512mb (G92):

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130325
Yeah, seriously... 1000w is, well, it kills me to say it, OVERKILL.
post #12 of 24
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Originally Posted by Chozart View Post
Drop the floppy (useless), and get a better PSU. The Corsair 750W is much better than this FSP thing...
RAID drivers can be loaded from flash drives now right? That and as a boot disk are the only things I really used a floppy for in the past, but the last time I set up a RAID array I did it with a floppy.

Alright so I'll drop the FSP 1000W and go with the Corsair 750W.
Edited by Delk - 5/27/08 at 9:05pm
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post #13 of 24
With Vista, you don't need a floppy for RAID anymore.
    
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post #14 of 24
I use my floppy to flash my gpu bios(s).

But I've recently made a bootable usb stick that I use for the main board bios flash so maybe it will also work with nvflash in which case you're right Chozart, a floppy is probably useless.

After all that, I think I'll remove my floppy...
    
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How is the RAM I picked out? I wasn't sure if it would get good results overclocking the Q9450 or if I should find some better RAM to use. I think I'm going to stay away from DDR3, it's too much extra cost to justify any performance gains.
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post #16 of 24
The new muskin ram is coming out soon. http://www.ncix.com/products/index.p...acture=MUSHKIN
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post #17 of 24
A good monitor is the Samsung 245BW in my opinion.

Another small thing I would change is the mouse. I never ever like the MX series. They just feel noob in my hands...like a fat kid running.

Go for a Logitech G9, Steelseries Ikari or a Razer one (Habu or Lachesis). You'll notice the difference in gaming.
Edited by NrGx - 5/28/08 at 6:33am
post #18 of 24
I'd go with a different mobo. It's too much of a gamble to expect a good Asus board with all of the problems they've been having lately. If you want to stay x38, go with the DFI LP LT x38. If you want to step it up a bit and go with the x48 chipset series, get the DFI LP LT x48 board.

As far as cooling goes, investing a good amount of time and energy into optimizing an air cooling build will give you closely comparable results to a watercooling system (depending on the level of OC) with a tinier pricetag. If you only want to allot $50-$100 for cooling, aircooling is a much better choice. Go with the TRUE or the Tuniq Tower for the CPU, and then get some Yate Loon fans(Petra's fans are the best Yate Loons) for quiet but powerful airflow.
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post #19 of 24
I would strongly reccomend the Xeon X3350 over the Q9450

The X3350 doesn't cost vastly more than the Q9450
Is higher binned [Better quality]
Lower VID [Generally]
I, personally have seen more people with high OC's with it [XS, OCUK sells computers with X3350's @3.7GHz etc]
    
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post #20 of 24
Actually, when we're talking about this kind of budget, I do believe DDR3 becomes a viable choice. This rig leaves $700 for video cards. (or $600, assuming the monitor will be more expensive in store, esp. when adding tax).
  • NZXT Zero Black/Silver Aluminum ATX Full Tower Computer Case $149.99
  • GIGABYTE GA-X48T-DQ6 LGA 775 DDR3 Intel X48 ATX Intel Motherboard $329.99
  • CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply $119.99
  • Intel Core 2 Quad Q6700 Kentsfield 2.66GHz LGA 775 95W Quad-Core Processor Model BX80562Q6700 $279.99
  • SUPER TALENT 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1800 (PC3 14400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model W1800UX2GP $249.99
  • 2X Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD3200AAKS 320GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive $139.98 (RAID0)
  • Western Digital Caviar GP WD10EACS 1TB 5400 to 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive $199.99 (NOT in any kind of RAID)
  • SAMSUNG 245BW Black 24" 5ms Widescreen LCD Monitor with Height Adjustment $439.99
  • Logitech MX518 2-Tone 8 Buttons 1 x Wheel USB + PS/2 Wired Optical Gaming-Grade Mouse $39.99
  • SAMSUNG 20X DVD±R DVD Burner with LightScribe Black SATA Model SH-S203N $28.99
  • Creative 70SB046A00000 7.1 Channels PCI Interface Sound Blaster X-Fi XtremeGamer Fatal1ty Professional Series $135.99
  • Tuniq Tower 120 P4 & K8 CPU Cooler $49.99
  • Logitech G51 155 watts RMS 5.1 Surround Sound Speakers $129.99
Total: $2,294.86

Now, for your important data, I don't recommend ANY type of RAID. Yes, it will improve performance a bit, and it offers a bit extra data security, but there is still one important issue: The moment you change your motherboard to a board with a different chipset (for example: from an Intel chipset to an nVidia chipset, let alone switching to an AMD platform), your RAID array will NOT be recognized, and you'll have to rebuild. If you have, say, 1TB of data on a RAID array, you first have to get a backup device (extra drive) and copy that 1TB of data over before you can do your mobo swap. Quite a pain in the behind.

Thus, I suggest a nice RAID array for OS/Applications/daily work and then however many 1TB drives you need. Start with one, and just set your rig up that you make a nightly back-up from your work drive (RAID array) to the back-up drive (single big boy). This way, you can migrate your data very easily to your next rig. If you really want data security, nothing beats an external solution, or a tape device (if your data is REALLY critical!)
    
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