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I have been having issues lately and someone pointed out that it may possibly be my PSU not supplying enough power. I did my research and read all of the reviews at the time to find a good reliable power supply that got great reviews at a good price. Now I am starting to wonder if I got the wrong one.

The Problem

I just got a new case with some additional case fans. My pc started crashing while I was away, and at my previously stable overclock setting. So I upped the VCore the processor and it is now stable again. Now when I try and push the limits of the system for some benches it will not go as far as it previously did.

So I guess my question is, is the power supply that I have in my system below capable of running everything? I am no good at the wattage, amperage, voltage discussions and which one matters the most (actually I have an idea I just don't completely understand it all yet, but I ma learning) so any help is appreciated.
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post #2 of 12
Was it simply restarting?
I've had a problem with mine recently where it would just restart because it's not getting enough power whilst overclocked.
I've ordered a new PSU and hoping it will solve the problem.
I'm not sure what power the cards require, i'm sure someone can help though.
Good luck with it - hope you solve the problem!
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It may have restarted once or twice, but mainly it just locks up like it is an unstable overclock. But the problem is that it did not do this until I put everything in the new case with the additional fans.
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post #4 of 12
Additional fans to my system have caused the LED's to go extremely dim on the front of my case.

My new PSU should be here tomorrow so i'll post back tomorrow with my results to let you know
To be honest though I suspect it probably is that, if that's the only thing that has been changed then maybe.
You didn't reseat the HeatSink did you?
Maybe a bad reseat has caused the temps to rise and it to shut down?
I don't know just an idea.

Good luck.
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post #5 of 12
Quote:
Originally Posted by BenBrown View Post
It may have restarted once or twice, but mainly it just locks up like it is an unstable overclock. But the problem is that it did not do this until I put everything in the new case with the additional fans.
Unplug the additional fans and see if that does anything? Your psu should be able to handle your rig, but maybe it isn't.
post #6 of 12
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Unplug the additional fans and see if that does anything? Your psu should be able to handle your rig, but maybe it isn't.
Well I have done that and it worked to an extent. I even went as far as adding an additional PSU to help with the load, but I am not sure I want that as a permanent solution. To be honest, I really thought this PSU could handle it all, but as I stated previously maybe I am not completely understanding what I need to be looking at/for in a PSU. I would even like to add one more toxic 3870 just for kicks, but I seriously doubt it will even come close to handling it.
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post #7 of 12
I suspect that you are maxing out your psu with a quad and 3x 3870s all overclocked. I would say with 4 HDs, your system needs about 600W peak on stock settings. If you factor in the OCing, you can see how much you are asking of your psu. Your psu is a good one, but 60A on the 12V isn't going to cut it. You should look into a psu with ~70A on the 12V. This would include the Silverstone OP/DA850 or the ST85ZF. Those are both about the only 850W that have 70A on the 12V. Then there are a few 1000W psus with 70A like the Ultra X3 1000 and the Antec TPQ-1000 and the OCZ ProXStream 1000W (which is a bit loud). Then there are quite a few 1000W that have 80A available like the Corsair hx1000, the OCZ EliteXStream 1000, the Silverstone OP1000, Thermaltake Toughpower 1000 and the Xigmatec HC1001.

Also, have you tried to run your system with only 2 3870s yet? It if does well with only 2, it is definitely the psu.
Edited by shinji2k - 5/20/08 at 7:38am
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post #8 of 12
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Thanks for the info.

I pulled 1 of the 3870s out yesterday and eveything seems to work fine, so I guess I am indeed overloading it. Man I hate to have to buy another PSU.

Of the ones listed above, as I am unsure the amps needed, which one(s) would be the best if I added an additional 3870 (total of 4) with my system and all overclocked (with volt mods)?
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post #9 of 12
Well, your first option would be to just give me one of your 3870s and then you wouldn't have to buy a new psu! Sorry , for a quad cpu and quad CrossfireX overclocked, I usually recommend at least the 80A 1000W units I listed earlier. A quick look around and the OP1000 looked like the best deal ATM. Here is a good review for that psu. I'm sure I missed something, so wait for some more input on which one to buy, but the list I gave is a good start for looking around for prices.
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post #10 of 12
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Quote:
Originally Posted by shinji2k View Post
Well, your first option would be to just give me one of your 3870s and then you wouldn't have to buy a new psu! Sorry , for a quad cpu and quad CrossfireX overclocked, I usually recommend at least the 80A 1000W units I listed earlier. A quick look around and the OP1000 looked like the best deal ATM. Here is a good review for that psu. I'm sure I missed something, so wait for some more input on which one to buy, but the list I gave is a good start for looking around for prices.
Whats your address, I'll send it right over....

Thanks for the info. That indeed is not that bad of a deal. Now if I can just decide if I really need 4 3870s.....
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