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Started stablizing 3.825Ghz today on my CPU below. Noticed the vcore is all over the map.
Bios is 1.362, OCCT shows it 1.33v as well as CPUZ when idle that is.
What's confusing is during OCCT Load it drops to 1.28 & 1.27v. That's a heck of a volt drop even with droop from 1.362v all the way down to 1.27.
.09v drop. Isn't this a little worrisome for stability issues. Maybe it's time for a bios update for this new board. I take it this is a common occurance with boards (I don't remember the gap being this big with my P5K Deluxe)
Stable (minus Prim95 as I have no need) it seems at 3.825. temps in Realtemp hit 54C on load as you can see in pic. I'm hoping the Coolit Elite Water/TEC cooler I bought might get this to 4.0Ghz stable. I'll run prime95 at that time.
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Does your bios have a setting to counter vdroop, loadline calibration or vdamp?
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Yes.....but I read in the anandtech review of the rampage formula to make sure it's disabled...they seemed fairly attimate about it. Possibly just coincidence but at 3.4Ghz getting that stable I actually had it enabled but could'nt finish OCCT (after 4 minutes) at the bios voltage, disabled and it finished, only setting changed as it was the same time I read the anandtech review.
    
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Yes.....but I read in the anandtech review of the rampage formula to make sure it's disabled...they seemed fairly attimate about it. Possibly just coincidence but at 3.4Ghz getting that stable I actually had it enabled but could'nt finish OCCT (after 4 minutes) at the bios voltage, disabled and it finished, only setting changed as it was the same time I read the anandtech review.
IDK about that

I use it on all my boards.
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It defiantly does help, and doesn't seem to hurt the overclock.

I think my vdroop went from .01 ish with it enabled to about .05 with it disabled!
    
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Your chip is golden. Below 3.45 for 3.8 ghz is pretty impressive, although I'd like to see some Orthos small FFT runs, pretty sure that it would fail those.
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IDK about that

I use it on all my boards.
Hey Grunion.
Here's the AnandTech article about it.
I also have used it a lot.
http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets...spx?i=3184&p=6
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Things that remove or alter vdroop/voffset generally cause more problems than they fix.

It's often safe just to increase the vcore than to enable load-line calibration, or perform a pencil mod.

There are certainly exceptions, but they are fairly rare.
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Hey Grunion.
Here's the AnandTech article about it.
I also have used it a lot.
http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets...spx?i=3184&p=6

Interesting read, thanks for the link.

But I have a P5B DLX, P5K DLX, DS4 and an X48 that run like champs.
Vdroop control helped immensely.
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Interesting read, thanks for the link.

But I have a P5B DLX, P5K DLX, DS4 and an X48 that run like champs.
Vdroop control helped immensely.
Yeah, me too. Go figure.
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