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So jonny are the old one's worth messing with?
    
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Originally Posted by jonnyGURU View Post
Based on WHAT information? Seriously? Incorrect information that's for sure....

The "old" BFG 800W was based off a Topower 800W, continuous rated at 40°C. APFC and it's actually 80 Plus certified under the OEM's model #.

Some "Old" BFG 800W PSU reviews:

Harware Secrets: http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/525

Hardware Canucks: http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum...ly-review.html

Hardware Logic: http://hardwarelogic.com/news/136/AR...008-01-03.html

The old stuff is cheap because I came on board and cleaned house. So now I just have the new ES-800 and I'll have a couple LS & MX units coming out next month or so.
Thanks for bringing this up. My bad wording. I didn't mean that it is a bad PSU but I would get the Corsair 650TX at the same price with similar amperage and quiet in my case.

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Originally Posted by shinji2k View Post
In his defense, he probably meant when you compare the 12V rail output to the newer stuff, it is more like a 650W. And wow, I didn't know there was such a difference in performance between the 650 and 800. The 650 you tested was crap and the 800 did pretty well.
Thanks for the clarification.
Edited by linskingdom - 5/20/08 at 5:24am
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So jonny are the old one's worth messing with?
I'm not Jon but I would stay away from the 650. The Earthwatts and Corsairs in the ~500W range, for example, are much better and close to the BFG in price. The 800W looks like a great buy for $80 even though it is loud. About the only psu that can compare at the price would be the Corsair that's been posted earlier.
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Ooh....Johnny is just like Spiderman .... His spidey sense tingles whenever the innocent are in need of PSU advice.
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So jonny are the old one's worth messing with?
As the review I did a couple years ago shows, the 650W isn't very efficient, mediocre regulation, only 456W on the +12V. So if you could get a more efficient PSU with 456W+ on the +12V rail for $50, I don't blame you for passing on the BFG. It does hold up in the long haul, I've found. And I guess that's why BFG felt OK with giving it a lifetime warranty.

The 800W actually has 768W on the +12V, not 648W. That was a typo. But don't take my word for it. Check out Gabe's review. He put 63A on the +12V rail and it actually ran fine until the temperatures hit 57°C (an unrealisticly high temperature). It's also not very loud because there are two 80MM fans and they actually spin at very low RPM. That is, until it's under some loud then the fans do kick in. I wish the inside kicked in first because it's harder to hear, but like shinji2k said, these units were designed/released a good year before I started working for BFG.
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As the review I did a couple years ago shows, the 650W isn't very efficient, mediocre regulation, only 456W on the +12V. So if you could get a more efficient PSU with 456W+ on the +12V rail for $50, I don't blame you for passing on the BFG. It does hold up in the long haul, I've found. And I guess that's why BFG felt OK with giving it a lifetime warranty.

The 800W actually has 768W on the +12V, not 648W. That was a typo. But don't take my word for it. Check out Gabe's review. He put 63A on the +12V rail and it actually ran fine until the temperatures hit 57°C (an unrealisticly high temperature). It's also not very loud because there are two 80MM fans and they actually spin at very low RPM. That is, until it's under some loud then the fans do kick in. I wish the inside kicked in first because it's harder to hear, but like shinji2k said, these units were designed/released a good year before I started working for BFG.

OT: Jonny, what PSU(s) do you run in your personal systems? Have you ever thought about endorsing products like Fatal1ty?
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As the review I did a couple years ago shows, the 650W isn't very efficient, mediocre regulation, only 456W on the +12V. So if you could get a more efficient PSU with 456W+ on the +12V rail for $50, I don't blame you for passing on the BFG. It does hold up in the long haul, I've found. And I guess that's why BFG felt OK with giving it a lifetime warranty.

The 800W actually has 768W on the +12V, not 648W. That was a typo. But don't take my word for it. Check out Gabe's review. He put 63A on the +12V rail and it actually ran fine until the temperatures hit 57°C (an unrealisticly high temperature). It's also not very loud because there are two 80MM fans and they actually spin at very low RPM. That is, until it's under some loud then the fans do kick in. I wish the inside kicked in first because it's harder to hear, but like shinji2k said, these units were designed/released a good year before I started working for BFG.

Thanks the information. I had a BFG800W before. Actually, it wasn't that loud until I started to pay attention to another rig with Corsair in my library.
Edited by linskingdom - 5/20/08 at 6:25am
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That's a heck of a typo. That extra 10A makes a lot of difference, this should be going in the hot deals section for $80. I saw Gabe's review and I was kind of skeptical that the 800 could do 60-63A consistently since efficiency really starts to plummet and then the rectifier kicked the bucket during the stress test. But the temperatures were pretty high so I'm sure you are right that it can do 63A reliably.
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OT: Jonny, what PSU(s) do you run in your personal systems? Have you ever thought about endorsing products like Fatal1ty?

HAHAHAHAHA!!!

Actually, the idea did come up to put my name on the ES-800. My working name for the unit was actually 6URU (leet for "GURU").
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HAHAHAHAHA!!!

Actually, the idea did come up to put my name on the ES-800. My working name for the unit was actually 6URU (leet for "GURU").
Allright. "GURU". Look forward to seeing that.
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