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Realize that doesn't take into account the performance or price-to-performance of said hardware.

Expensive doesn't necessarily mean good.

Would you like to buy my 80286 for a thousand bucks? How about I put OSX on it for you..... then it might sell to a certain croud. (I kid, I kid.)
Realize how price-to-performance has nothing to do with this article, all we're dealing with is sales figures. Not everyone shops for the best price-to-performance. I find it funny how everytime something good about Apple is posted on OCN, someone comes around to say it is overpriced, regardless how irrelevant the comment may be. I see no merit in your post except in trying to start a flame war.

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Premium computer market>$1000 ? LOL
Did you know that cheap PCs can do 99% of what the average OCN PC does? There are uses for a computer other than gaming. :gasp:
Edited by triggerc - 5/20/08 at 1:03am
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Realize how price-to-performance has nothing to do with this article, all we're dealing with is sales figures. Not everyone shops for the best price-to-performance. I find it funny how everytime something good about Apple is posted on OCN, someone comes around to say it is overpriced, regardless how irrelevant the comment may be. I see no merit in your post except in trying to start a flame war.

Did you know that cheap PCs can do 99% of what the average OCN PC does? There are uses for a computer other than gaming. :gasp:
That's the problem.

Price-to-performance involves ALL computers.

I'm not trying to 'start a flame war'. I'm merely being objective. They're not synonymous here. And if you're referring to the third paragraph of my post, it was obviously a joke - considering that I said "I kid" and included a cute little smiley face sticking out it's tongue. Come on, take it easy. I apologize if it offended you. It wasn't meant in a hostile manner.
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Right; for a performance system I definitely wouldn't get a Mac from a hardware standpoint.
Not sure I'd agree with that...macbook and macbook pro's have core 2 duo with a gig or more of RAM.
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Realize how price-to-performance has nothing to do with this article, all we're dealing with is sales figures. Not everyone shops for the best price-to-performance. I find it funny how everytime something good about Apple is posted on OCN, someone comes around to say it is overpriced, regardless how irrelevant the comment may be. I see no merit in your post except in trying to start a flame war.



Did you know that cheap PCs can do 99% of what the average OCN PC does? There are uses for a computer other than gaming. :gasp:
Yea I'm well aware of that......after all my job depends on that That still doesn't change the fact that I don't consider $1000 to be the premium computer market. (my point in the first place)

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Not sure I'd agree with that...macbook and macbook pro's have core 2 duo with a gig or more of RAM.
Yea but how much are they? My little brother just got a Toshiba for $1099 and it has 4Gb of RAM, discrete graphics, and a dual core celeron......it also have Vista x64 on it.
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Another problem with this is that they are overpriced! A $1500 Mac is by no means a high-end PC, but for $1500 you could build yourself a pretty decent PC.

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Realize how price-to-performance has nothing to do with this article, all we're dealing with is sales figures. Not everyone shops for the best price-to-performance. I find it funny how everytime something good about Apple is posted on OCN, someone comes around to say it is overpriced, regardless how irrelevant the comment may be. I see no merit in your post except in trying to start a flame war.
Except the overpriced comment is not irrelevant in this case because the article bases their definition of a high-end PC upon cost and not upon the components within them.
Edited by stargate125645 - 5/20/08 at 11:47am
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Did you know that cheap PCs can do 99% of what the average OCN PC does? There are uses for a computer other than gaming. :gasp:
90% of what I do involves stuff that cheap computers cannot do. I would really hate to see what a 1.8 ghz core 2 (or pentium 4) would do if I had my regular desktop stuff up, Itunes, 2 cores going exclusively to a VM, Anti-virus/firewall, BOINC, and watching a high-def movie, I don't think it would like me much.

I agree with Hundred. There really isn't much under $1,000 for Macs. Given store markups I think the regular Macbook would break the $1,000 mark. Compare that to even cheapo Gateway PC's with 8800GT's that go for $900, and there really isn't much above $1,000 for PC's.

I think it is more a decline in the price of PC hardware, more than an increase in Apple sales that really accounts for the change.
    
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Lol yeah Best Buy sells them and Geek Squad always has a few people in line looking for assistance with them. One of the guys behind the counter was working on 3 macbook pros. I think it was a software issue. Probably something the customer wanted to use wasn't compatible and couldn't get it working.
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So in the study, they talk about entire market share, but then they only include in-store purchases? What an odd way to possibly skew things in their favor. Either make a complete assessment of the situation (online and in-store purchases) for both mac's and PC's, or don't bother. I don't know about anyone else, but at my university, by far PC's are the dominant notebook of choice (likely due to the price point). Since it's poor students, I'm not saying that this translates into real-world stats. I know the point of the argument was "apple sells a greater percentage of notebooks that are above the $1000 price point," but wouldn't that just mean that their notebooks are just more expensive if they only have a 14% market share? Hmm...I'm failing to see the point of this story at all...
    
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Not sure I'd agree with that...macbook and macbook pro's have core 2 duo with a gig or more of RAM.
Good luck modding it or playing Crysis


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So in the study, they talk about entire market share, but then they only include in-store purchases? What an odd way to possibly skew things in their favor. Either make a complete assessment of the situation (online and in-store purchases) for both mac's and PC's, or don't bother. I don't know about anyone else, but at my university, by far PC's are the dominant notebook of choice (likely due to the price point). Since it's poor students, I'm not saying that this translates into real-world stats. I know the point of the argument was "apple sells a greater percentage of notebooks that are above the $1000 price point," but wouldn't that just mean that their notebooks are just more expensive if they only have a 14% market share? Hmm...I'm failing to see the point of this story at all...

Completely agree

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Lol yeah Best Buy sells them and Geek Squad always has a few people in line looking for assistance with them. One of the guys behind the counter was working on 3 macbook pros. I think it was a software issue. Probably something the customer wanted to use wasn't compatible and couldn't get it working.
At the local best Buy here, the only person trying to sell people stuff is right next to the macs. A 'mac Genius' they call them. I then asked her If I would be able to play 'any of the cool games I see in the games section'. Her smile fades as she says no.

My take on the whole thing, as objective as I can:


Apple did a great job advertising, and many un-computer-savvy (not everyone, just mostly, no nicer way to say this) thought they should get one because '' Vista is falling apart''. PC lovers (As in windows...doesn't apple know that its computers are also PC's?) can rejoice in the fact that Apple will never be able to overtake Microsoft so long as they don't start putting real prices on their things and stop the hypnotizing marketing. Just like iPods (calm down, this is MY opinion), which I think many will agree are grossly overpriced.

Only thing I can blame on Microsoft is no marketing. They haven't put up an add saying that SP1 is out and that 99% of problems are gone, nor have they encouraged their resellers to show the advantages of PCs and take on Apple.

Now I can only wait for the first person to say I am wrong, but keep in mind, once, again, this is my opinion, and as such cannot be 'wrong'.


Edited by Adrienspawn - 5/20/08 at 1:32pm
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Good luck modding it or playing Crysis
Wow - you do know that games don't rule the computer world right? It may seem that way on this forum, but the vast, vast majority of computers have never run a single game
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