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Ok so I am thinking about building a Linux Server considering I keep reading that WHS isn't that reliable and I still do not understand how it has "redundancy" without any RAID array. If anyone could explain it for me and why WHS is worth getting I would appreciate it. I have a few questions though.

1. What is the best flavor of linux to get for building a home server or why should I get WHS? I will be using it as a domain controller, file server, torrent downloader and maybe an email server as well. I want it to be a domain controller mainly because I want to be able to access and control my computers from both inside and outside of my network. Also I do run Vista Ultimate (64-bit) on my Desktop and I have a MacBook which runs Mac OSX is that helps any.

2. I want about 1TB of hdd space. Would it be better to set up a RAID 5 (250GB x 5) or a RAID 1 (1TB x 2)? Also should I install the OS on a separate hard drive or a set of hard drives in RAID 1 (80GB x 2) or is it ok to include it with the storage drives?
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I tried the demo for WHS and had problems with it, but the idea behind it was great and I would have glady paid for it if it was more reliable. i don't know for sure but i think it just creates duplicates of all your files for redundancy. when you install it, it makes small partition for the OS, and the rest of the hdd space (even across multiple hdds) is added together to make one logical drive. then as you save things it just duplicates it across multiple drives i think. but like i said, it crashed on me a lot causing me to lose everything.

i was unable to set up WHS as a domain controller, but i'm not very experienced in that area so i may have been doing it wrong.

i would recommend xubuntu, its a lighter version of ubuntu

i would recommend raid 5 as long as your mb supports it. if you use raid 5 you can install the os on the same raid because it is all redundant, so if one drive goes, just pop a new one in and it rebuilds it. but i would put it on a separate partition though
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That would make sense, it basically just sounds like RAID 1 then, but I don't see how you are still able to retain all the disk space of your hdd's. I did hear they do plan on fixing the data corruption problem by june or around then.

Is there a way I could obtain the demo for WHS?

I have hear from a few people xubuntu is the way to go, but I do not know if they offer xubuntu in server edition to my knowledge they just offer ubuntu server edition.

I am probably going to sound dumb for asking this, but I am correct when I think if I have 4 drives in raid 5 and any one of them dies on me I will lose no data right, and when I insert a new drive and it is rebuilt it will be good as new right?
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That would make sense, it basically just sounds like RAID 1 then, but I don't see how you are still able to retain all the disk space of your hdd's. I did hear they do plan on fixing the data corruption problem by june or around then.

Is there a way I could obtain the demo for WHS?

I have hear from a few people xubuntu is the way to go, but I do not know if they offer xubuntu in server edition to my knowledge they just offer ubuntu server edition.

I am probably going to sound dumb for asking this, but I am correct when I think if I have 4 drives in raid 5 and any one of them dies on me I will lose no data right, and when I insert a new drive and it is rebuilt it will be good as new right?
You won't loose any data with RAID5, it is redundant, as in stores a copy of everything on two drives. You don't have to be concerned about server/desktop versions of Xubuntu, it just installs different packages by default, you can install any of them you want after installation.
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Alright that makes some sense. Would I be able to just add a 5th drive later on or would I have to rebuild the RAID Array?

I didn't know that about xubuntu would you be able to show me an example of what you are talking about by any chance?
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That would make sense, it basically just sounds like RAID 1 then, but I don't see how you are still able to retain all the disk space of your hdd's. I did hear they do plan on fixing the data corruption problem by june or around then.

Is there a way I could obtain the demo for WHS?

I have hear from a few people xubuntu is the way to go, but I do not know if they offer xubuntu in server edition to my knowledge they just offer ubuntu server edition.

I am probably going to sound dumb for asking this, but I am correct when I think if I have 4 drives in raid 5 and any one of them dies on me I will lose no data right, and when I insert a new drive and it is rebuilt it will be good as new right?

There are differences from RAID1 though:
1) RAID1 requires even number of HDs. WHS takes 20GB for the OS and all addition HD space is put into a pool. WHS Redundency checks if you have more than 1 HD. If you you do, it stores a copy of the files on one another HD. If you have more than 2 HDs, WHS stores a copy on either of the HDs but not both since it doesn't need too.
2) WHS allows selective redundency. You can enable/disable redundency on the high level folders.

Here is a 120 day trail (just pay like $10 for shipping): http://www.microsoft.com/windows/pro...rver/eval.mspx
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DuckieHo you have a WHS if I am not mistaken. How do you like it so far?
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Alright that makes some sense. Would I be able to just add a 5th drive later on or would I have to rebuild the RAID Array?

I didn't know that about xubuntu would you be able to show me an example of what you are talking about by any chance?
i don't think you can just "add" a 5th drive because the parity calculations have to be redone and the data has to be redistributed
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That is what I thought. Would it be difficult to rebuild the disc array if I do eventually want to add a 5th and maybe even a th drive later down the road?

Also would anyone be able to recommend a good AMD motherboard with RAID 1/0/5, (6) SATA ports and Integrated Video?

The cheaper the better because I have a $600 budget that I want to keep within. If you need to know what else I was planning on putting in the server I will gladly post it.
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