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According to this interview with Petter Sydow of Massive Entertainment, the developer has been able to shoehorn in some DX10 effects for their upcoming ports of World In Conflict: Soviet Assault for the Xbox 360 and PS3:

VideoGamer.com: Have you guys managed to replicate the DirectX10 effects we saw in the PC version?
PS: Yeah, at this point we've managed to replicate some of the effects, but I don't know what features will make it into the final release. Nearly all of our DX10 features are possible to do on the consoles if you give it enough time and resources, so we'll keep on working on them and see what happens.

http://www.videogamer.com/xbox360/wo...eview-946.html

http://ve3d.ign.com/articles/news/38...soles#comments

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it was already confirmed when the 360 came out that it had some of the DX10 features built in to the gpu. So technically the 360 is DX9.5ish
    
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The consoles can NOT run Dx10. Infact, the PS3 is OpenGL so its not even possible for it to run DirectX. Both consoles use a combination of OpenGL and DirectX effects to IMITATE or EMULATE DX10 effects.

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"Xbox360 cannot run DX10," said an ATI spokesperson. "The Xbox360 has unique features including memory export that can enable DX10-class functionality such as stream-out. From what we're hearing, Crysis will support DX9 with some sort of use for DX10 features. It's likely that those DX10 visuals can be replicated on the Xbox360, but it can't be properly called DX10."
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and this is a repost.

http://www.overclock.net/hardware-ne...-consoles.html
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Nearly all of our DX10 features are possible to do on the consoles if you give it enough time and resources.
No **** sherlock. It's all just code
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No **** sherlock. It's all just code
re-read my post shirlock
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re-read my post shirlock
Your post represents a fundamental misunderstanding of what DX10 and what DX10 effects are. They're talking about general effects along the lines of AA and AF. DX10 doesn't do anything revolutionary - it just provides an API for these things. You can call it imitation if you want - but these are general concepts for which OpenGL 3.0 and whatever API's the consoles use can easily provide functionality. They aren't trying to emulate DX10 or run DX10 or anything like that, they're adding heat blur and more realistic fog
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Your post represents a fundamental misunderstanding of what DX10 and what DX10 effects are. They're talking about general effects along the lines of AA and AF. DX10 doesn't do anything revolutionary - it just provides an API for these things. You can call it imitation if you want - but these are general concepts for which OpenGL 3.0 and whatever API's the consoles use can easily provide functionality. They aren't trying to emulate DX10 or run DX10 or anything like that, they're adding heat blur and more realistic fog
ATI doesn't understand DX10 even though its their GPU inside the 360?

ATI states it cannot run DX10, so therefore it can't. Im sure it applies to the PS3 also.
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ATI doesn't understand DX10 even though its their GPU inside the 360?

ATI states it cannot run DX10, so therefore it can't. Im sure it applies to the PS3 also.
Once again - they are NOT trying to run DX10 on consoles. They are trying to use some of the visual effects that DX10 also happens to use. A visual effect is a vague thing and can be implemented in a billion and one different ways. They are not trying to copy DX10's implementation, or copy DX10, or any other way that you want to put it. They're just trying to get the same visual effect - which is entirely possible
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