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Ye it's an other "plztellwhattodo" post, well if anyone still have time to answer I'd be glad.

So tomorrow I'm getting my new computer (I'm a gamer and work with audio/video editing, so multitasking go-go) and after four month of saving and research I finally got to this:

Motherboard: MB Asus P5k-VM

CPU: CPU Intel Core 2 Duo 8400

Ram: Pc-6400 Crucial (x2)

Dvd: Sata whatever (x2)

Video card: GF 8800GT (512) (Not sure if I should put more money on video card, but to me, it just look like everything above it's a waste of money in term of money/power, but maybe it's just me)

Monitor: SM 226BW (Need a bit of help here, maybe there is an upgraded version or something)

Mouse: Copperhead Razer (or DeathAdder? They don't have them at the shop so I need to order them...need some gamer opinion here)

500w? Don't know anything about power-cables or whatever : P

SEAGATE 500GB SATA2 32MB ST3500320AS*(x2) (check)

Speakers: x-240 logitech?

Keyboard: Lycosa Razer (Only keyboard, nice with no useless macro keys, low profile and back-illumination)

Case: CM 690 (Maybe the 590 centurion? again since I use mainly laptops I don't know much about case)

Headset: Actually I use headsets almost 100% of the time I use computers, so kinda need a good one.

I'm actually european so first of all sorry for my bad english, second, my budget is around 1450-1550 euro, so 1450-1550 dollars (ye hardware stuff cost waaaay more in europe)

Any advice is very welcome

Thanks already


-Jupitel
post #2 of 12
Why an mATX board? No need to, and it'll hinder your overclockability. For around the same price, I'd get either a GIGABYTE GA-EP35-DS3L of a DFI BloodIron P35-T2RL. The DFI board has the advantage that it supports RAID if you're planning to set that up.

Given your mixed desire of gaming and audio/video editing, I'd get a quad core CPU and not a dual core. The Q6700 is currently the one to get, but if that's too expensive, the Q6600 is still a nice CPU, even though recent bins don't overclock as well as the Q6700.

Regarding RAM: if you're planning to buy two 2x1GB kits, don't do it. Also, recent Crucial Ballistix are single sided, don't overclock very well, and the failure rate is a tad high. Here is a G.Skill 2x2GB kit that's very nice and inexpensive.

Dual DVD burners eh...

The 8800GT 512MB is indeed the 'sweet spot' in terms of price/performance, but if you find a great deal for an 8800GTS 512MB, do get it

The monitor is still one of the best out there. You won.'t regret. I do not know about any 'revisions'. Maybe someone else can step in here.

Either of those two mice is fine.

This Corsair HX520 will run your rig just fine and is modular, making cable management easier.

Ah, ok. So you are getting two hard drives. Are you going to put them in RAID? If so, note that the original motherboard you selected does NOT support RAID, nor does the Gigabyte board I linked. Thus, the DFI Bloodiron seems to be the motherboard you want. Also, ALWAYS get a SINGLE drive for your critical data!!! The moment you replace the motherboard with one that has a different RAID controller, you'll have to rebuild the RAID array and you'll loose your data on that RAID array.

Ok, and where in Europe? Any link of a website you plan to buy?

Random Euro country (Ireland being the country of choice). Hopefully it wouldn't matter too much. www.komplett.ie
  • Gigabyte GA-EP35-DS3R €100.01
  • Intel Core 2 Quad Q6700 2.67GHz Socket LGA775, 8MB €229.50
  • OCZ Platinum DDR2 PC8000 4096MB KIT, w/two 2048MB PC8000 XTC, CL5-5-5 €82.00
  • 2X Pioneer DVD±RW burner, DVR-215, 20x, SATA, Black €54.00 (for the pair)
  • EVGA GeForce 8800GT 512MB GDDR3, HDCP, PCI-Express 2.0, 2xDVI-I, 256bit €175.00
  • Samsung 22" Wide Syncmaster 2232BW, Black, 1680x1050, DVI/VGA, 3000:1, 2ms €299.00 (couldn't find the 226BW right away)
  • Razer DeathAdder, 1800 dpi, Laser Mouse €49.90
  • Razer Lycosa Gaming Keyboard, Illuminated, US-Layout €82.00
  • 2X Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 500GB, SATA-300, 32MB, 7200RPM €180.00 (for the pair)
  • Logitech X-240 2.1-Speakerset €25.80
  • Logitech Digital Precision PC Gaming Headset €39.00
  • Cooler Master CM 690 black chassis only €69.01
  • Corsair Powersupply 520W Black, ATX/EPS, 120mm Fan €94.00
  • Tuniq Tower 120 Ultra Silent CPU Cooler €42.00

€1,521.22
Edited by Chozart - 5/21/08 at 3:01am
    
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The Samsung 226BW has gone under several panel revisions since its release. I don't believe any of them are seriously better than another however. They're all TN type panels with a 1000:1 contrast ratio, 2ms Grey-to-Gray response time, and similar (if not exactly the same) viewing angles, brightness levels, etc. You can't really go wrong with the 226BW, but I'm personally shooting for an IPS type panel to replace my VX922. Which should hold me over until OLED technology becomes mainstream.


Edit: And I agree 100% with Chozart's build, it looks great for the price.

As an extra note on RAID, the second drive (in RAID 0 anyway) will indeed speed up read/write and access times, but it also doubles your chances of data loss. Just another thing to think about when considering RAID 0.
Edited by RayvinAzn - 5/21/08 at 3:13am
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Woah that was quick, well first of all thank you

Second, I live in italy, venice, since there isn't really a decent company, I'm going to order all the parts in a shop and they are gonna assemble my computer, it's gonna cost me just a few bucks more but I get some kind of long technical warranty.

About overclocking since I come from a long time macs using I'm really not sure how much I'm gonna overclock, especially considering I'm going for laziness for a air-cooling system.

I tought that double hard drive would speed up data searching in many programs and games and yes I was going for Raid also because I keep all my work-data in a external drive.

Thanks again
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Woah that was quick, well first of all thank you

Second, I live in italy, venice, since there isn't really a decent company, I'm going to order all the parts in a shop and they are gonna assemble my computer, it's gonna cost me just a few bucks more but I get some kind of long technical warranty.

About overclocking since I come from a long time macs using I'm really not sure how much I'm gonna overclock, especially considering I'm going for laziness for a air-cooling system.

I tought that double hard drive would speed up data searching in many programs and games and yes I was going for Raid also because I keep all my work-data in a external drive.

Thanks again
I think komplett ships throughout Europe. You might want to check it out, since it could save you some good money. The closest one to you probably is france.

The list I made on their Irish site does support RAID, and is in my opinion the best picks you can make for that price. However, if you go through a shop, you probably need to cut cost. In that case, look for a Q6600 instead of the Q6700 (since you don't plan to overclock much), and a cheaper heatsink than the Tuniq.

PS: the times of a 1:1 price comparison between Europe and the US is no more... the SAME list as I made above would cost me $1,734.84...
    
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Again thanks for the quick answer.

However I don't get why I shouldnt (1gbx2)x2. It's for a future extra gbs?

Also, quad core is surely great for multi-tasking but it does cost more and most of the softwares still only use dual core.

One more thing, about OS I'm gonna put linux (ubuntu actually) and vista (even if I kinda hate it) there is a specific vista I should get?

-Jupitel
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2x2 GB is the same (4GB), but less stress on the memory controller, and room for a future upgrade to 8GB by simply adding two more sticks.

And there is more software than you think that's optimized for multiple cores! Photoshop, for example, grabs any cores it sees, and there is other software also. I highly recommend the Quad over the dual. And the Q6600 should be about the same price as the E8400, so price isn't a real issue here.

Get 64-bit Vista Home Premium or Ultimate. Just spend some time tweaking it (step one: disable UAC.), just like you would do with XP (I usually spend a good few hours disabling services and such... :lachen)
    
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The Q6600 may even be cheaper than the 8400 in some areas.
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Okey got it, thanks for the advices I'm looking in to them right now, and you are right.

I wonder why anyone still hasn't created a program to shatter xp and vista useless crap...

Last thing, well, isn't really an issue but since I have no experience, what about filters? I heared many users complaining about dust with some cases (haven't found anything about the 690, seems just perfect) and what about led fans? Do they bother or are nice? what about a control drive to turn them off?

Reading your sign I saw that you SLI video cards, how much does that actually do? Should I downgrade and double? What are the pro and cons?

Sorry I know this last questions aren't really intel-build connected but better than make a new thread.

P.S.= One more thing..In case I should cut some price, where should I?
Edited by Jupitel - 5/21/08 at 3:50am
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The Cooler Master RC690 sucks up a lot of dust, I'd recommend dusting at least once a month if you don't use any fan filters except the stock ones. With the stock fans it's not quite as bad, since there are only three of them, but it still requires more dusting than most cases. The case only comes with one LED fan as the intake, and while it's not too garish, I didn't care for it. I don't like LED fans in general. The only light I really like in a case is some nice UV cold cathodes, which help the accents glow and are very toned down. The RC690 isn't the best case for illumination with the stock side panel anyway, the only places illumination will escape are through the fan holes, and while there are a lot of them, they don't really look that great. The stock fans are also very quiet (and pathetic in terms of airflow), you shouldn't need to consider turning them down unless you're a serious silence enthusiast.

SLI is an enthusiast venture for the most part, I wouldn't recommend it given your budget and needs. Better to just get another single high-end card once the 8800GT/GTS isn't performing as well as you'd like. SLI mid-range and low-end cards are NOT a good replacement for a single high-end card. They suck up more power, don't always offer consistent performance, and will add a lot of heat to your case.
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