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post #11 of 25
Wouldn't it be the R800 series with the enthusiast being the R800 and the performance being the RV870 , way too early to tell...
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post #12 of 25
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Originally Posted by stargate125645 View Post
It would just make the frequency of Fudzilla and Inquirer postings increase, which no sanity-loving overclocker would want.

I wonder why ATI is so easily using 50nm technology but AMD struggled to get 65nm working. Seems to me they could be sharing their ideas since they are one in the same now?
ATI doesn't know too much about the production process, they're a fabless company. TSMC are the ones behind the 55nm magic, and seeing as their business is going quite well I doubt they'd want to share with AMD's production division for any reasons..
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post #13 of 25
RV870 rumors already, but no RV770 out yet.
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post #14 of 25
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ATI doesn't know too much about the production process, they're a fabless company. TSMC are the ones behind the 55nm magic, and seeing as their business is going quite well I doubt they'd want to share with AMD's production division for any reasons..
It wouldn't matter if they did, since AMD uses the SOI process tech, TSMC probably uses some bulk process. AMD wouldn't be able to retool anything and expect to keep the same kind of CPU production capacity, it just wouldn't make sense. Now, if AMD had another fab they could devote toward GPU production, that might change things a bit.
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post #15 of 25
God I hope this is true. Probably not though...either way, I need to change my pants.

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post #16 of 25
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It wouldn't matter if they did, since AMD uses the SOI process tech, TSMC probably uses some bulk process. AMD wouldn't be able to retool anything and expect to keep the same kind of CPU production capacity, it just wouldn't make sense. Now, if AMD had another fab they could devote toward GPU production, that might change things a bit.
Well I guess that explains it. Though I would still think ATI would have something to offer.
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post #17 of 25
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Which comment?
That "if ATI can do <50nm why can't AMD?" comment. People are all like "n00b gpuz r diffrnt tehn cpu nebuddy shood no dat wut a n00b lawl".
    
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post #18 of 25
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ATI doesn't know too much about the production process, they're a fabless company. TSMC are the ones behind the 55nm magic, and seeing as their business is going quite well I doubt they'd want to share with AMD's production division for any reasons..
TSMC is generally 16-20 months behind Intel in manufactoring process. No way they can get to 40nm process in a year. Intel will still be on 45nm (or converting about then).
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post #19 of 25
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It would just make the frequency of Fudzilla and Inquirer postings increase, which no sanity-loving overclocker would want.

I wonder why ATI is so easily using 50nm technology but AMD struggled to get 65nm working. Seems to me they could be sharing their ideas since they are one in the same now?
just like with memory IC's, vertex processors are alot simpler to make smaller for some reason.

also, gpu's and memory are made using repetitious sections of the same exact design, IE a memory register, or a shader processor, and if there are problems with the chip after its produced at such small fab process, memory registers, or even shader processors can be completely turned off, and binned lower. not the case with cpu's until you get to cache, wich i dont think is even the case anymore, at least with intels core 2 right? or ATi's RV600+ with the exception of a few number of HD2900GT's that were produced.
post #20 of 25
i bet you it will be a 55nm or 45nm chip
Edited by A Russian :D - 5/21/08 at 9:04am
    
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