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And Linux will only be a great OS when it supports more software/hardware/peripherals than Windows does...

If they can bring the stability and performance-oriented nature of Linux to the mainstream support and compatibility of Windows, 7 just may be a great OS.
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Windows will only be a great OS when it performs better than Linux...
...no. Windows runs circles around Linux... I put Linux on a second partition in my HDD a while back. I played with it for a few days... eventually took it off because I couldn't get my freaking screen resolution to change. I looked everywhere, but apparently Linux doesn't auto detect your resolution, so I called it quits after hours of frustration. Sure, I might not be an expert on Linux or anything... but you'd think something as incredibly basic as screen resolution would be easy to manage. I quickly found out that it required over 30 lines of code into a command prompt just to change it.

No thanks.

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XP can game, that's pretty important to me. 2000 is bulletproof though, it did everything I needed to do besides game and on top of that I've only ever seen it crash once.

ME can't do ****, everyone knows that. Why are you asking this?

The HDD transfer speeds are no joke. Ask mongo988, he's the one I saw the problem with. After patching to SP1 (and making no other changes) his disk-to-disk transfer speeds went up to ~25MB/s.


This isn't the stupidest argument, far from it. It's the most important argument that can be made against Vista. If there is no freaking reason to upgrade to it, why the hell should you? It isn't revolutionary, it does not offer a significant advantage over XP, certainly not enough to justify its $300 price tag. It's a lot of money, and can certainly be spent on better things than a mediocre operating system.

I already changed my GUI to mimic Vista almost perfectly, that's the only "improvement" I could see.


(Yeah I just necro'd a thread, sorry)
Vista offers enhanced security (ALSR, Firewall, UAC, PatchGuard, Defender), a more stable and efficient GUI (hardware rendered), better monitoring tools (Resource Monitor, Reliability and Performance Monitor, System Health Report), a much better updating program (more integrated into GUI and supports upgrading drivers and programs, much better driver support (all hardware worked without any 3rd party drivers, including full printer and scanner functionality - on 64 bit!), instant serch, much better reaction to programs not responding (most come back to life in less than 5 seeconds), nice backup tools (Complete PC Image), nice memory utilization in terms of loading commonly used programs, awesome problem and report solutions which actually tells you what is wrong with the PC and how to fix it (and it works), BitLocker, and probably a few more things.

Windows Vista is definately worth while. It cost around $200, which is dirt cheap as far as I am concerned.
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Vista offers enhanced security (ALSR, Firewall, UAC, PatchGuard, Defender), a more stable and efficient GUI (hardware rendered), better monitoring tools (Resource Monitor, Reliability and Performance Monitor, System Health Report), a much better updating program (more integrated into GUI and supports upgrading drivers and programs, much better driver support (all hardware worked without any 3rd party drivers, including full printer and scanner functionality - on 64 bit!), instant serch, much better reaction to programs not responding (most come back to life in less than 5 seeconds), nice backup tools (Complete PC Image), nice memory utilization in terms of loading commonly used programs, awesome problem and report solutions which actually tells you what is wrong with the PC and how to fix it (and it works), BitLocker, and probably a few more things.

Windows Vista is definately worth while. It cost around $200, which is dirt cheap as far as I am concerned.
XP task manager can monitor 25 different parameters (and I can close unresponsive programs instantly,) I never run Windows firewall because it interferes more than it helps, I run AdAware, which catches everything (although I haven't had spyware in a couple years,) updates are infrequent and not as needed in XP as it's quite polished by this point. I run with search indexing off anyway as it slows HDD access, I've heard nothing but trouble with drivers, especially on 64bit. And I use a Maxtor OneTouch for my backup anyway, and my next rig will likely run RAID-5.

Superfetch seemed like an interesting feature, if I had the RAM. Never heard about the problem/solution tools, although I've never had a persistent issue that wasn't pretty easily identifiable (except that one incident with faulty RAM, that stumped me for months.)


My planned next rig will be running 8GB of RAM, in which case I will likely get Vista x64 for it because the alternative would be buying XP64, and I'm not going to pay for basically the same operating system twice.

It's one of those things where it's merely the "logical next step" for a new 64bit system, but there's nothing special about it. If you already have XP and don't need 64bit, why should anyone jump to Vista?
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My planned next rig will be running 8GB of RAM, in which case I will likely get Vista x64 for it because the alternative would be buying XP64, and I'm not going to pay for basically the same operating system twice.

It's one of those things where it's merely the "logical next step" for a new 64bit system, but there's nothing special about it. If you already have XP and don't need 64bit, why should anyone jump to Vista?
XPx64 is Server 2k3, which I absolutely despised at first but have come to appreciate.

As for me, why Linux? I've never done a minor update and not have projects compile/run improperly.

I did a "Security Update" in XP a year or so back and immediately had problems with SQL. Turns out its a setting that got reset, but installing updates that mess with the way you set something up is an inappropriate way to work. Its MY computer that I make a living off. stay away.

(And yes, I've screwed up compiling kernels and had to re-install.. it sucks but i can accept my mistake, I won't stand for restarting the computer and suddenly not being able to accept SSL certificates, or login to FTP... or authenticate through a windows DC, [my linux partition authenticated no problem at all])
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...no. Windows runs circles around Linux... I put Linux on a second partition in my HDD a while back. I played with it for a few days... eventually took it off because I couldn't get my freaking screen resolution to change.
There's your problem.

Everyone likes to say, "I played with Linux for a few days, so I have experience and I can say I don't like it."
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There's your problem.

Everyone likes to say, "I played with Linux for a few days, so I have experience and I can say I don't like it."
As someone who uses it fairly often, I would say it is not refined to the point where it would make a desktop OS that could replace Windows. It's incredibly powerful, but a lot of that power comes through in the terminal, and how many people understand that versus double click.

But it is free
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There's your problem.

Everyone likes to say, "I played with Linux for a few days, so I have experience and I can say I don't like it."
give everyone a chance to play with Mac for a few days.

Everyone says "I played with OSX for 15 minutes at the Apple store, so I have experience and I can say I don't like it."

See that? I simultaneously dissed and praised you at the same time XD
jk dude. it's all good.
    
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There's your problem.

Everyone likes to say, "I played with Linux for a few days, so I have experience and I can say I don't like it."
If everyone says that, then obviously it is a problem...

Do you think they are saying that because they fell in love with it?

Every time I install Linux it ends up turning into 5 installs with the 5th one being Windows because I cannot get multi-screen to work and I cannot load a damn driver.
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give everyone a chance to play with Mac for a few days.

Everyone says "I played with OSX for 15 minutes at the Apple store, so I have experience and I can say I don't like it."

See that? I simultaneously dissed and praised you at the same time XD
jk dude. it's all good.
Uh, yeah, people say that about Macs too. "I've used Macs and I can say I don't like them." Their experience consists of less than 10 min of clicking around at the store.

Look at the last quote in my sig. Perfect example.

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If everyone says that, then obviously it is a problem...

Do you think they are saying that because they fell in love with it?

Every time I install Linux it ends up turning into 5 installs with the 5th one being Windows because I cannot get multi-screen to work and I cannot load a damn driver.
What's your point? That Linux is no good because it's not windows?

My point is simple: if you go into Linux expecting it to be windows, you're going to have a bad experience. Also, if you don't give it time (a few days is not "giving it time"), then of course you're not going to know anything.

As far as I know from your posts in the Linux section, you try Linux for a couple days upon release and give up shortly after. That's not experience enough to make credible judgment on the OS.

What's the main topic, again?
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