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so i got my federal stimulus check a few weeks ago and well that seemed like as good a time as any 2 buy some WC gear. here's the items i got:

1x Swiftech Apogee GTX cpu block
2x Swiftech MCW30 chipset blocks
1x XSPC 150mm finned aluminum reservoir
1x Swiftech MCP655-B pump
1x Thermaltake Aquabay M2 bay radiator
a few lengths of 1/2 and 3/8 fesser one blue uv tubing and blue uv fluid

so i go about the install and i'm fitting everything up, all goes as planned. then i turn on the system, look 4 leaks (none) and finish sealing up the case. start up windows, turn on everest and watch as the idle temps reach about 30-33°C cpu and 38-40° mobo. that's when i start saying 2 myself, y n the hell have my temps not changed from my air cooled setup?!?!

so i check all the fans, they're runnin fine. open up the res and feel the water, and it feels like warm bath water. i'm still like ***?!? i coulda swore WC'ing would take my temps down a few degrees at least. ambient is around 75°F. i'm thinking this TT rad is a POS... any suggestions?
    
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Did you bleed the system properly? Air pockets can create big issues.
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yea, 1st go round it wasn't done properly, then i put the res n the opposite way and left the top off 2 let the air bleed out as the system was runnin and kept checkin fluid level and adding if necessary.
    
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Themaltake isn't exactly known for spectacular wc products.
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yeah, i gathered. i just figured a rad was pretty much a rad. it looks top notch, but obviously it can't cool much. i just wanted 2 keep everything on the inside of the case w/o much cutting/drilling/etc.

any1 else know of the performance of this rad?
    
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Well what size rad is it?
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post #7 of 14
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i'd say as close 2 a 120 as u can get...

here's the link: http://www.thermaltakeusa.com/Produc...C=1162&ID=1624
    
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post #8 of 14
Well Im assuming that is you're problem. I wouldn't recommend less than a 240 for a cpu loop.
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post #9 of 14
Hmmm. Your Ambient is what 24c? So 6C above ambient...that's about aircooling territory. Actually a good heatsink like the TRUE is likely to idle at or near ambient.

I think you might have a combination of effects: not enough rad and/or airflow. The fins on that are very dense: it takes a helluva fan to drop the temps. Consider the amount of heat you are shifting now from one point: the rad. Three blocks. maybe just a CPU loop would be closer to what that rad could deal with in your current set up.

I have pulled the rad from a Kandalf LCS and it's a huge rad...but it's not even a real rad..it's more like a heat exchanger or oil cooler. A copper tube with a mess of fins soldered to it. A real rad has end caps or plenums with dividers (or not) and flattened tubes with a far greater surface area applied to the fins.
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post #10 of 14
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well, on the bright side, the load temps on the cpu only jump up 10 degrees as opposed 2 about 15-20 with my zalman HSF. and i was finally able 2 hit 3.2ghz stable, albeit at 38-40° idle.

i really didnt' want 2 put anything on the side of the case, so i guess i'm gonna have 2 fab up something at work 2 hold the rads out back. but, i guess since i'm already fabbing my own WC blocks 4 my mosfets, this shouldn't b a problem.

thx 4 the insight, i just didn't realize a single 120 rad couldn't handle more than 1 component.
    
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