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would any of the Pentium E2xxx be a bottleneck for a 9600gt?
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In real games at the resolutions and details real people tend to use?

No, not really.
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Not if you overclock it to around 3ghz or higher.
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Not if you overclock it.

Give it a decent run (2.6-3.0) and you will have zero problems with bottleneck. At those speeds, it will become GPU Dependant until the GPU is overclocked to outrun the CPU. then its just cat and mouse.
    
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....

Trust me. You'll be fine.
    
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....

Trust me. You'll be fine.
you do realize its a 1.6-1.8 ghz CPU hes referring to? I don't see this keeping pace with high-detail Gfx with today's games having CPU heavy physics engines
    
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Originally Posted by i_pwn_u View Post
would any of the Pentium E2xxx be a bottleneck for a 9600gt?
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Not if you overclock it.

Give it a decent run (2.6-3.0) and you will have zero problems with bottleneck. At those speeds, it will become GPU Dependant until the GPU is overclocked to outrun the CPU. then its just cat and mouse.
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you do realize its a 1.6-1.8 ghz CPU hes referring to? I don't see this keeping pace with high-detail Gfx with today's games having CPU heavy physics engines
Do you have any proof of these "bottlenecks" you speak of? I mean, specifically with an E2000 series and 9600GT?

Everyone seems so quick to spout off "bottleneck!" when given combinations of CPU's and GPU's without actually knowing if there will be a problem. Or this: "just overclock it to (insert random number here) GHz", without any proof of an overclock to that specific frequency is really going to change anything.

So, now according to you, the 9600GT will be 'bottlenecked' with an E2xxx @ 1.6 or 1.8GHz - but not at all @ 2.6-3.0GHz. How exactly do you know this? Where is the proof? And what is your exact definition of 'bottleneck'?
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Originally Posted by Choggs396 View Post
Do you have any proof of these "bottlenecks" you speak of? I mean, specifically with an E2000 series and 9600GT?

Everyone seems so quick to spout off "bottleneck!" when given combinations of CPU's and GPU's without actually knowing if they'll be a problem. Or this: "just overclock it to (insert random number here) GHz", without any proof of an overclock to that specific frequency is really going to change anything.
People are quick to giving free advices and you know that asking for in this forum usually makes people run away...

off topic - 1-2 on bottlenecks:
- they exist, they always exist, the chance that you manage to solve them all is smaller than that of an asteroid crashing down on your boss' head in the middle of the presentation
- the best way to tackle them after the purchase is OCing various components until no visible gain is achieved
- the best way to tackle them before the purchase is to identify: what are the apps you are using, and what do they demand - design? get a good CPU; games? good GPU, etc. In the end there will be two major bottlenecks: too little ram (no one apparently sees as a problem to run 2GB with a 9800GTX) and too slow HDDs (you will wait for that game to load).

These things are learned thru experience so it's next to impossible to give proofs, all we have is guesstimates.

On topic: based on the article below, I'd say you would gain quite a bit if you OC that CPU with the 9600GT. Based on the same article I would say that a better (read expensive) CPU would be required only in the advent you will never OC the pentium, otherwise is a utter loss of money. Read the article, it has common sense.

reference article
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Bottlenecks are exaggerated in general. Even though it's a CPU that's relatively low in terms of GHz, it's still a pretty powerful chip.

Things to take into consideration when estimating when you might have a CPU (or GPU!) bottleneck:
Performance of the GPU and CPU (obviously)
  • Which game(s) do you mostly play? Some games are heavily GPU dependent, so you'll never have a CPU bottleneck with those, but likely you'll have a GPU bottleneck in your case. Other games use the CPU much more, and thus you might encounter a CPU bottleneck.
  • Game settings. Probably the MOST important factor! Is your resolution 1024x768? Heck yeah the CPU will be your bottleneck. Is your resolution 1920x1200? The GPU will be the culprit in that case. Ditto for AA/AF and other fancy settings. I am not sure what that 17" CRT is capable of...

In general, I think an E2180 is a nice match with a 9600GT. We're not talking about the *most* powerful card in the market...
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