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Can I get a third hdd and run RAID 0? Will it improve speed as well as space?
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Dont think so man.....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAID
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I'm pretty sure you cant...
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Can I get a third hdd and run RAID 0? Will it improve speed as well as space?
Of course you can. You can run 6-12HDs in RAID0 if you want (and have a controller). However, you will need to rebuild the entire array. It will improve speed but not as much as going from 1 to 2 HDs (diminishing returns and controller limitations). The total space will equal the total space of each HD.
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hmm, everything I have read referes to multiple drives (as in, the higher chance for data corruption and array failure with more drives) It seems that they are referring to arrays with more than 2 drives (otherwise there would only be one way and no need to mention the higher risk when adding more drives)

I also don't know if you can add more, but need to keep them in an even number?? I am at work, so don't have much time to research it (hence the post, lol) until I get home.

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Of course you can. You can run 6-12HDs in RAID0 if you want (and have a controller). However, you will need to rebuild the entire array. It will improve speed but not as much as going from 1 to 2 HDs (diminishing returns and controller limitations). The total space will equal the total space of each HD.

OK, thats kinda what I thought. I figured I would need to re-do the entire array (which I am OK with as I will probably reformat in ammonth or so as it is)

I have been looking into getting a 2nd WD 500 GB AAKS or Seagate 400GB to match up with one of my back-up drives, but then I thought adding another 80gb WD woiuld be really cheap and give me just the little extra I need on my main. I only use it for music, OS and games anyways. Everything else is on my server.
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Why are people saying you can't run 3 drives in RAID0. You'll have to re-build your array, but you can have as many drives in RAID0 as your controller supports. And the improvements will depend on your controller, but going from 2 to 3 drives will likely show a good bit of improvement.

EDIT--DuckiHo beat me to it. Damn you for having nothing else to do!
    
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hmm, everything I have read referes to multiple drives (as in, the higher chance for data corruption and array failure with more drives) It seems that they are referring to arrays with more than 2 drives (otherwise there would only be one way and no need to mention the higher risk when adding more drives)

I also don't know if you can add more, but need to keep them in an even number?? I am at work, so don't have much time to research it (hence the post, lol) until I get home.




OK, thats kinda what I thought. I figured I would need to re-do the entire array (which I am OK with as I will probably reformat in ammonth or so as it is)

I have been looking into getting a 2nd WD 500 GB AAKS or Seagate 400GB to match up with one of my back-up drives, but then I thought adding another 80gb WD woiuld be really cheap and give me just the little extra I need on my main. I only use it for music, OS and games anyways. Everything else is on my server.

For corruption, if one drive goes... all data goes. With more HDs, their is a higher probability that one goes so increase risk over all. The average life of the RAID0 is based on the average life of the worst drive.


RAID0 does not require even number of drives.

What 80GB drives do you have now? You are better off getting two newer 500GB/640GB HDs in 2xRAID0 than old 80GB HDs in 3xRAID0.

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EDIT--DuckiHo beat me to it. Damn you for having nothing else to do!
Who says? I'm doing analysis on 20 yrs worth of LIBOR vs index rates.
Edited by DuckieHo - 5/23/08 at 8:02am
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For corruption, if one drive goes... all data goes. With more HDs, their is a higher probability that one goes so increase risk over all. The average life of the RAID0 is based on the average life of the worst drive.


RAID0 does not require even number of drives.

What 80GB drives do you have now? You are better off getting two newer 500GB/640GB HDs in 2xRAID0 than old 80GB HDs in 3xRAID0.


Who says? I'm doing analysis on 20 yrs worth of LIBOR vs index rates.


I have 2 of these:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822135106

I am looking to do it more for fun than anything else. I would love to add another 500gb to run with my AAKS in RAID0, but I don't have th $75-$100 for the drive. Since the 80gb are $40 on newegg, I am hopi ng to find one for $20 or so. I understand that the array needs to be redone and that RAID0 is as weak as its weakest link, but that is also why I have 900gb in my server as a back-up. I try to keep my main gaming rig as slim as possible and even the music I have on there is only for convinience.
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I have 2 of these:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822135106

I am looking to do it more for fun than anything else. I would love to add another 500gb to run with my AAKS in RAID0, but I don't have th $75-$100 for the drive. Since the 80gb are $40 on newegg, I am hopi ng to find one for $20 or so. I understand that the array needs to be redone and that RAID0 is as weak as its weakest link, but that is also why I have 900gb in my server as a back-up. I try to keep my main gaming rig as slim as possible and even the music I have on there is only for convinience.

80GB for $40 = 2GB per $1
500GB for $90 = 5.6GB per $1

I usually just end up buying the large drives just for the performance and long term use.
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Yup you can run 3 drives in RAID-0, 4 even...but anything more than 3 won't see any real advantage unless using a dedicated controller.
 
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