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Alright, new member here....

The situation:
My toshiba Satellite X205-S9359 notebook has proved *VERY* unreliable for XP/Linux, and *UNSTABLE* at best running vista, and any kind of DirectX applications... Not to mention that my SATA controller began to fail last week.... I need a rig to do school work on for about a month, and being the total computer geek I am, I want to build something with potential... I also am aspiring to do some hard core gaming/game development on it......

I have ~$600 to throw at it, and I want to get the best bang for the buck... But I need potential, I will have about another $1000 or so to throw at it in a few months...

So, I started with some parts(some of them are just get-me-by-parts), and I want to make sure i'm not making bad choices.
BTW I am posting this here, because I will be over clocking, and this is the part that I need help with...

The Parts(not bought yet..):
$80 - NZXT SECC ATX Midtower case
$45 - WD1600AAJS 160GB 7200 RPM sata 3.0 hdd
$28 - Biostar V8402GL26 Geforce 8400 GS 64-bit 256MB (yeah, Fist thing to go)
$300 - ASUS striker II Formula LGA775 nforce 780I mobo(does it OC good??, or is there a better 780i SLI board with 2 Gigabit LANS....)
CPU -- help -- looking at E1200 or an E2220(unless someone has a better idea)
$9 - MASSCOOL 90mm ball cpu cooler
RAM -- help -- system can run 1066 DDR2 -- was looking at 2x2GB 1066 5-5-5-15 (unless someone has a better suggestion)
Power - looking at about 500-700w for about $50-75

If you do the math, You will see how tight my situation is.....(already over my budget)

I haven't built a system In years...., I really want to make sure that I get a setup that can work.....

as for the CPU... I would like a quad-core(not enough $ though).. So I am thinging about getting the cheapest one I can, with overclock potential, and just running it till i have more money..

as for upgrading.... I plan on upgrading to 3-way or dual SLI (eventually), Upgrading The Ram, The CPU(unless I can get acceptable performance), Power supply, and Yes that video card is going to be one of the first things to go ;-0

As for the ram... I will get more later, that Is why I want to ask questions now.. like should i go with 1066 5-5-5-15? how about voltages..., etc

I have a tendancy to make bad choices..., and not research enough... I have been researching all week, and I just want to ask some people who know more than I do about what I'm trying to do...
Edited by zero_himself - 5/23/08 at 12:52pm
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http://www.thermaltakeshop.com/ref/ref-powersupply.html These PSU's are a steal, and still have a manufacturer warranty. I got a refurbished case from there and it looked brand new. These cases are good and can save you some more money http://www.thermaltakeshop.com/dis/dis-case.html . This quad core is a bargain http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115017 . I know you want SLI but I don't know much on Nvidia chipsets, may I recomend something else http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813136045 . Although not SLI its a great overclocker and you could spend more on a better card now like this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814121229 its pcie 2.0 and has great reviews. This is just some suggetions and might lower your budget a bit.

http://secure.newegg.com/Shopping/Sh...px?Submit=view
The build I am suggesting won't come under your budget but you might try out my route. Get better components to start and get everything else as you can afford it. In the long run youwill have your more ideal build.
Edited by noneed4me2 - 5/23/08 at 1:37pm
    
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Personally I'd watch for sales and buy a reputable brand of power supply first and foremost. That alone can save you countless hours of troubleshooting random BSOD's and other crashes. Look in the thread about power supplies for recommended brands. I got an Antec 550w for under $50 AR from Frys.com. Sorry to harp on this so much, but overclocking plus a refurbished PSU just make alarm bells go off in my head!
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Originally Posted by Ceedub View Post
Personally I'd watch for sales and buy a reputable brand of power supply first and foremost. That alone can save you countless hours of troubleshooting random BSOD's and other crashes. Look in the thread about power supplies for recommended brands. I got an Antec 550w for under $50 AR from Frys.com. Sorry to harp on this so much, but overclocking plus a refurbished PSU just make alarm bells go off in my head!
I fully agree on PSUs. If you skimp on that you may end up burning out good components with a less than reputable brand. However Thermaltake is a very reputable company, I would feel secure that they fully test their products before sales.
    
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Q6600 GO@3ghz P5E3 Deluxe X38 Sapphire HD2900XT Gskill 2x1gb, 1gb single channel DDR3/1333 
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Seagate 7200.11 500gb 32mb cache Pioneer DVD±R Burner XP pro 32bit/Vista Premium sp1 64bit/Ubuntu 8.04 Sceptre 20.1" Widescreen LCD 
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Seagate 7200.11 500gb 32mb cache Pioneer DVD±R Burner XP pro 32bit/Vista Premium sp1 64bit/Ubuntu 8.04 Sceptre 20.1" Widescreen LCD 
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personally i would just get a good CPU and PSU and RAM then when you get your 100$ upgrade your graphics cards and other things.
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You may do better just looking in the forsale section. I have seen some good parts slip through there at great prices.

Also, look at the EVGA 750i FTW. Unless the 780 has features you just must have, more Sata ports etc. The 750i is PCIe 2.0 16 by 16 sli, 6 phase power etc, newegg for $190. It had growing pains at first but seems to be a solid board, now. I can state it is a lot better than the Asus 750 board, at least for overclocking.
Edited by Tufelhunden - 5/24/08 at 12:42am
    
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