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If someone stole your intellectual property, I can guarantee you'd be pretty pissed, too.
Not if I was reporting profits as large as they are. God forbid they can't purchase their 20th ferrari.

This is no better than cutting off someone's hands for stealing a loaf of bread. But, hey, money runs this country, and the legal system too, so this isn't shocking in the least. Penalties for anything related to piracy have always been ridiculously steep. You can do far worse, and come off with less.
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Not if I was reporting profits as large as they are. God forbid they can't purchase their 20th ferrari.

This is no better than cutting off someone's hands for stealing a loaf of bread. But, hey, money runs this country, and the legal system too, so this isn't shocking in the least. Penalties for anything related to piracy have always been ridiculously steep. You can do far worse, and come off with less.
The idea that I'll get in less trouble for physically stealing a CD than I will for pirating the same CD is ludicrous. At worst the penalties should be the same.
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o.o wewt. Release group, as in a scener. Seeing as he owned a server, it means he was their distro o.o
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Intellectual property is nonsense as long as imagination retains copies of everything we see and hear.
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Definitely. I was kinda shocked that he could be facing up to 5 years in federal prison though.
It's a federal prison (a.k.a. country club), so no big deal. If it were a state prison then you could feel for him and his new life partner, Bubba.
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Not surprising. I mean, it's not like these industries report profit year after year or anything, right? What a heinous crime this man committed!
Your point is????? Just because an industry turns a profit doesn't mean that promoting theft of property from that industry is ok..........I don't know if I agree with the severity of the punishment though....
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The idea that I'll get in less trouble for physically stealing a CD than I will for pirating the same CD is ludicrous. At worst the penalties should be the same.
Completely agree with you there. The crime for stealing should be the same whether you do it by physically going to a store and doing it or if your lazy and would rather sit at your house and do it.
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The idea that I'll get in less trouble for physically stealing a CD than I will for pirating the same CD is ludicrous. At worst the penalties should be the same.
The issue is that pirating has the potential for more illegal copies to be made. If you steal a CD you are just stealing 1 copy, so they really aren't the same thing.
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The idea that I'll get in less trouble for physically stealing a CD than I will for pirating the same CD is ludicrous. At worst the penalties should be the same.
Quite true. And to anyone who says "oh, well it's harder to get caught online" doesn't know what they're talking about. I had a buddy in high school who stole from walmart religiously, not necessarily because he couldn't afford the items, but because he found it fun. Incidentally enough, most pirates share this attitude as well. Small items can fit under the child seat on a shopping cart, slightly larger objects could be pocketed down an unpopular aisle that lacks cameras, and things that took time to get apart could be done in a dressing room. Add to this the fact that their policy is to not even go after people unless they're trying to steal over $25 worth of stuff and (assuming you aren't a complete halfwit) you'll never get in any sort of real trouble. Now this is hardly the place for that kind of discussion so I'll end it there.

I cringe everytime I see in the news that the RIAA/MPAA expects some single mother/11 year old/dead woman to payout ludicrous sums of money after their army of lawyers do their thing in the courtroom, feeding upon the ignorance of the [paid off] jury... Upwards of $1000 per song in some cases. How is that justifiable?

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Your point is????? Just because an industry turns a profit doesn't mean that promoting theft of property from that industry is ok..........I don't know if I agree with the severity of the punishment though....
Obviously there should be sort of punishment, but in all cases like this, the punishment never fits the crime.

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The issue is that pirating has the potential for more illegal copies to be made. If you steal a CD you are just stealing 1 copy, so they really aren't the same thing.
Not necessarily. Someone could just as easily steal a cd from a store, and then put it on a torrent site.

Now, if everyone who downloaded something illegally went out and stole it from walmart instead... That'd be a huge mess. To say downloading is worse than the theft of a physical copy is just silly.
Edited by Liability - 5/23/08 at 9:17pm
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I am probably one of the forum's biggest piracy haters, but I must say the punishment does not fit the crime.

People get 5 years for murder, for rape, for selling meth on the streets, for stealing money from a little old lady... but seeding torrents??!! Seriously?

I think the punishment should be grounding from the internet until they can learn not to fileshare.
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