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Well, just pointing out that despite these claims from GB, the fact remains that the top end ASUS motherboards are damn good and generally beat out the top end boards from GB. Which I think GB resents and is just stirring up trouble because of it. Like the way AMD is filing lawsuits against intel for copying them and such. I just think it's kind of ironic.

Oh, and even if the picture of blown capacitors was not from an ASUS product, it doesn't matter, even if they do use the same capacitors. There are a lot of factors as to why they would blow, including being run out of spec, overheating, poor power regulation circuitry, etc...
Still has nothing to do with the topic AT ALL. Some motherboards overclock better than others, so what? And if a Gigabyte board overclocked better than some Asus board, your whole "arguement?" would be invalidated. They are discussing a specific board and its lack of advertise features. AMD has a right to sue Intel. Since the courts have allowed the case to proceed, there obviously is some merit to the case. Just because the underdog sues the marketholder, the underdog is just stirring up trouble? BS.


You don't know much about capacitors, do you? While those factors are valid, the manufactures of the cap is by far the most important aspect. Look up Chinese vs Japanese caps. Or read up about capacitor stolen formula of the early 2000's.
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Go Asus never had a problem with Asus products they are top quality, everyone now is just claiming the other company did this did that, turned into a little girl fight now.
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I really dont care, I hope Asus lose big time in this one. But Gigabyte sucks just as much! So screw both of these companys!!

I use to love Asus, everything had to be asus they make some really nice stuff Great company. Till this year, out of 12 mobo from Asus 7 of them Had to be send back. Thats HIGH! And it was not an order of 12 boards at one, because then I would blame shipping damage. Asus needs to look at what happen to there quality and fix that before bolting on tons of heatsinks and such junk.

Gigabyte I was in love with and considered them Asus #2, I build 36 Machines on Gigabyte s939 and s754 boards. They ran great out of the box, and had everything I was looking for. Now I am finding that after about that one year mark all the Gigabyte boards are failing. We have sent back so many boards to them, and the worse part is they have send us new replacment boards from RMA that were DOA. I stay far away from Gigabyte boards now because of this. They are great for my personal PC that I upgrade all the time, but not great for PCs that you do not want to be fixing all the time. I think Gigabyte should also look at them selfs because there quality has always been lacking IMO,

I hope both learn something about making quality products this year, but I will never give Gigabye a chance again. I do how ever see my self with another Asus board at some point as I have had pretty darn good luck with them in the past.
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I really dont care, I hope Asus lose big time in this one. But Gigabyte sucks just as much! So screw both of these companys!!

I use to love Asus, everything had to be asus they make some really nice stuff Great company. Till this year, out of 12 mobo from Asus 7 of them Had to be send back. Thats HIGH! And it was not an order of 12 boards at one, because then I would blame shipping damage. Asus needs to look at what happen to there quality and fix that before bolting on tons of heatsinks and such junk.

Gigabyte I was in love with and considered them Asus #2, I build 36 Machines on Gigabyte s939 and s754 boards. They ran great out of the box, and had everything I was looking for. Now I am finding that after about that one year mark all the Gigabyte boards are failing. We have sent back so many boards to them, and the worse part is they have send us new replacment boards from RMA that were DOA. I stay far away from Gigabyte boards now because of this. They are great for my personal PC that I upgrade all the time, but not great for PCs that you do not want to be fixing all the time. I think Gigabyte should also look at them selfs because there quality has always been lacking IMO,

I hope both learn something about making quality products this year, but I will never give Gigabye a chance again. I do how ever see my self with another Asus board at some point as I have had pretty darn good luck with them in the past.
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A certain meme comes to mind in the case of gigabyte...

PROVE ME WRONG.
lol yeah exactly.
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I'm going to go SLI with the GTX280 on my rampage formula... gonna wait for the GTX280GX2 That is of course assuming it turns out being faster than the 4870x2. Is it isn't, I will go ati.
You're not gonna go SLi on that board, because you can't You need a Nvidia chipset board to go SLi.
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You don't know much about capacitors, do you? While those factors are valid, the manufactures of the cap is by far the most important aspect. Look up Chinese vs Japanese caps. Or read up about capacitor stolen formula of the early 2000's.
I don't claim to be a god on the subject, but yes I do have more than a basic understanding. The whole stolen formula argument is null here, as that pertained to capacitors which used a liquid electrolyte. The capacitors used by ASUS and Gigabyte use solid electrolytes, presumably tantalum. Both ASUS and gigabyte claim to be using conductive polymer cathode plate capacitors as well, which decreases the ESR over the more common manganese dioxide.

Gigabyte also accuses ASUS of using cheaper non-Japanese made capacitors. They do not specify where they are made (quality capacitors can be made in countries other than Japan). AFAIK (I may be wrong here), but it is impossible to tell where the metal can type capacitors are made, or by what company because they don't have that info stamped on them. Again, I may be wrong about that, I am not as familiar with SMD parts.

Finally, if you compare the pictures of a Rampage Formula and a GA-X48-DQ6, notice how the capacitors look exactly the same. See for yourself. GA-X48-DQ6:


Rampage Formula:


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You're not gonna go SLi on that board, because you can't You need a Nvidia chipset board to go SLi.
The 9800GX2, and the dual-GPU cards do work on non-nvidia chipsets. I know someone with a 9800GX2 on a Maximus Formula, and it works perfectly.
Edited by 003 - 5/25/08 at 9:26pm
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The 9800GX2, and the dual-GPU cards do work on non-nvidia chipsets. I know someone with a 9800GX2 on a Maximus Formula, and it works perfectly.
Yes, but the guy was talking about going SLI with the GTX 280, not running a single 9800GX2.
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No, "that guy" was me, and I was referring to a GTX280GX2. It hasn't been announced I don't believe, but I am sure it will be released, and I will get one.
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I'm going to go SLI with the GTX280 on my rampage formula... gonna wait for the GTX280GX2 That is of course assuming it turns out being faster than the 4870x2. Is it isn't, I will go ati.
Maybe a typo?
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