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Posted by Steven Hone on May 25, 2008 - 12:20 AM

Speaking at yesterday's Wedbush Morgan Securities annual Management Access Conference, the Atari founder suggested that game piracy will soon be a thing of the past thanks to a new chip.

"There is a stealth encryption chip called a TPM that is going on the motherboards of most of the computers that are coming out now," he pointed out

"What that says is that in the games business we will be able to encrypt with an absolutely verifiable private key in the encryption world - which is uncrackable by people on the internet and by giving away passwords - which will allow for a huge market to develop in some of the areas where piracy has been a real problem."

Bushnell thinks that piracy of movies and music, however, is probably unstoppable because "if you can watch it and you can hear it, you can copy it."

"Games are a different thing, because games are so integrated with the code. The TPM will, in fact, absolutely stop piracy of gameplay.

"As soon as the installed base of the TPM hardware chip gets large enough, we will start to see revenues coming from Asia and India at a time when before it didn't make sense."

Thanks to Daftshadow for pointing this out.
Seems a bit far fetched....... Anything can be cracked/hacked. Look at video game consoles that get moded for copied games. IMO, they are wasting there time.

http://www.guru3d.com/news/the-end-of-game-piracy/
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Also, piracy will never be stopped. Pirates/crackers will always find a new way to bypass piracy protection. O yea, and Good luck getting me to buy one of those motherboards with a anti piracy chip in it.
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Lol why does everyone have this obsession with this topic. Its not like its a new thing or anything!
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I'm sure someone will find a workaround, but the thing is, how complicated will it be and will most game pirates go to those lengths?

Interesting concept.
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So... boycott the company that uses this chip, which raises the cost of the mobo, at NO gain to the end user. How dare they force me to buy what I do not need?
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Also, piracy will never be stopped. Pirates/crackers will always find a new way to bypass piracy protection. O yea, and Good luck getting me to buy one of those motherboards with a anti piracy chip in it.
I'm sorry if it is, I looked but didn't see anything

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Lol why does everyone have this obsession with this topic. Its not like its a new thing or anything!
Because many in the PC game industry complain about lagging sales and piracy. Yet there are those like Valve (a nearly dedicated PC game maker) who's product does amazing. They don't lower their standards (*cough consoles) and then make a crappy PC port and call it a game. There are getting to be fewer and fewer good PC games out there.
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Seems a bit far fetched....... Anything can be cracked/hacked. Look at video game consoles that get moded for copied games. IMO, they are wasting there time.

http://www.guru3d.com/news/the-end-of-game-piracy/
True, but if people are forced to hard mod their PCs(Mobo) to play pirated games I bet the PC piracy rate will begin to mimic the console piracy rate... They aren't wasting their time they're evolving and developing a stronger anti-piracy protection. If this is remotely successful and requires any kind of hard mod 95% of pirates(the majority of pirates are quite stupid and not 1337 haxxors) will not have the skill set to play pirated games... I can only hope if this is implemented that those with "older hardware" are grandfathered in and can at least play new games so long as their hardware is capable.

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Also, piracy will never be stopped. Pirates/crackers will always find a new way to bypass piracy protection. O yea, and Good luck getting me to buy one of those motherboards with a anti piracy chip in it.
It doesn't have to be eradicated, simply made so difficult/inconvenient that most will be unable to play the pirated games. If the anti piracy chip becomes standard then you will have no choice when it comes time to upgrade...

I hope they do eliminate the majority of piracy, then they won't have anyone to blame when no buys their piss poor game but themselves...
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Anything can be hacked/cracked/modded, but the more effort people have to put in, the more it costs, the more warranties have to be voided (so the more barriers they put), the less people will think it's worth it.
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The only reason there is any piracy today is because, largely, the games out there right now suck, so people don't want to put their hard earned cash on the line for a piece of crap. Whereas Valve's games are pretty damn good so must people will be willing to support the developers.

Of course there are always a few who are just cheapskates and will pirate everything in sight but they make up a small percentage of the gamer community.
    
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True, but if people are forced to hard mod their PCs(Mobo) to play pirated games I bet the PC piracy rate will begin to mimic the console piracy rate... They aren't wasting their time they're evolving and developing a stronger anti-piracy protection. If this is remotely successful and requires any kind of hard mod 95% of pirates(the majority of pirates are quite stupid and not 1337 haxxors) will not have the skill set to play pirated games... I can only hope if this is implemented that those with "older hardware" are grandfathered in and can at least play new games so long as their hardware is capable.



It doesn't have to be eradicated, simply made so difficult/inconvenient that most will be unable to play the pirated games. If the anti piracy chip becomes standard then you will have no choice when it comes time to upgrade...

I hope they do eliminate the majority of piracy, then they won't have anyone to blame when no buys their piss poor game but themselves...
If it becomes standard (which it wont) than I just wouldn't upgrade my mobo/processor. My system has at least 8 more years left in it if I really wanted to play any game thats coming out within the next 8 years. There will also be motherboard manufactures that don't support it though. It's not like they can force it on all of the motherboard manufactures.

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The only reason there is any piracy today is because, largely, the games out there right now suck, so people don't want to put their hard earned cash on the line for a piece of crap. Whereas Valve's games are pretty damn good so must people will be willing to support the developers.

Of course there are always a few who are just cheapskates and will pirate everything in sight but they make up a small percentage of the gamer community.
Agreed, if a games crap I wont buy it, which most games are now a days because they are too concerned with making the graphics look good. I normally will just play the demo/download the game and uninstall it right away. The only games that I buy are ones that are actually worth the money such as any Valve, Bioware, Blizzard, and infinity ward game.
Edited by QuickS - 5/24/08 at 6:44am
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