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Originally Posted by Pheatton View Post
Can you say invasion of privacy in the US. I really dont think that this will ever fly in the US with all of our privacy laws. Its very hard for a organization to pull something like this off. Also I imagine that the US is a very big market share for the DIY PC crowd.
This kind of chip is not an invasion of privacy or a spy chip. It is a cypher chip. That does not mean it checks what's on your computer a reports back to someone (spying). It means that the way the game is produced, its code is not going to be in a runnable format once it is installed on the computer. The code will be encrypted, possibly specifically for your motherboard. The chip would then be necessary to unencrypt the game when you play it.

There is no spying, privacy invasion, or violation of your rights in this scenario. The goal with these things is to create a non-draconian Digital Rights Management system that doesn't do those things. It still has disadvantages, but nobody has mentioned those. Everyone is seemingly trying to make a rights case here, where one doesn't exist. My question is -- what happens to people like me who change motherboards regularly in the interest of overclocking??

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Yeah and they made $500million in the first week........i'd say thats making money back???
I'd say that's 100% of the reason they made the game. This isn't a coop -- it's an economy.

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Then they'll go "Wait, there's about 3 people pirating this game, but we're still not selling games..." IT CAN'T BE BECAUSE THE GAME SUCKS CAN IT?
So you can rape someone's wife if she's ugly??
You can steal someone's car if it can't do 0-60 in less than 10s?
What kind of mentality is this that the subjective perception of a products quality somehow creates an ethical opening to steal it.

Let me ask you, if I'm your boss and you worked all month, but I kinda think you suck, then I should be able to just laugh at you when you ask for your paycheck?

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Originally Posted by VulcanDragon View Post
This is eactly how consoles work, and no one is suing for privacy concerns. The generally successful console protection model moving into the PC space is not going to trigger anti-privacy issues.
Exactly. My faith is now restored.
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lol this may have been posted but it's a follow up that was just posted on engadet.

http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/26/a...y-ending-chip/
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post #104 of 120
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Let me ask you, if I'm your boss and you worked all month, but I kinda think you suck, then I should be able to just laugh at you when you ask for your paycheck?
I've never sigged a quote, but I'm damned tempted.

I'd love to see some of these "If it sucks it's Ok to steal it" advocates explain this one away.

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post #105 of 120
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Also, piracy will never be stopped. Pirates/crackers will always find a new way to bypass piracy protection. O yea, and Good luck getting me to buy one of those motherboards with a anti piracy chip in it.
or maybe rip it out?
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post #106 of 120
If they do decide to go with a chip on the mobos, where do you think this chip is gona be made? prob the same country that leads the world in piracy
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It will be hard for hackers to by-pass this technology but it will not be impossible!
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post #108 of 120
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It will be hard for hackers to by-pass this technology but it will not be impossible!

I give hackers 2 weeks, tops. It's not at all hard to bypass for a skilled blackhat. They have the tools and the skills to edit the game so that it won't query that chip in the first place, or instead query a .dll they place with the game they seed. Easy as **** for most programmers.

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Games cost a lot to make. It's estimated that GTA4 took $100million dollars to finish. Rockstar can't turn around and sell each game for $10. They have to make money or they won't be making anymore games.

GTA IV is one of the few titles that could have turned a profit if it launched at 15 bucks.
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okay people, DO NOT buy unreal tournament 3. Just steal it from somewhere online cuz it sucks... there u go.. i dont f'ing wanna spend $50+ on a game that suck...

and nothing is hack proof...
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Yeah and they made $500million in the first week........i'd say thats making money back???
the thing is though with that also though is how often do they get hits like that and how many other games do they produce that just flop?

the game industry anymore just seems to be one big hit to carry them through many flops till the next big sale comes through.
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