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Originally Posted by Jarhead View Post
The entire concept of this type of chip is built on the assumption of guilt, the very antithesis of Common Law. It goes against the spirit of every one of the founding documents of the representative republic in which we live . . .
Yeah, and while we do away with this, we can just do away with credit checks for loans, product scanners by store exits, the locks on your car, etc, since they are all assumptions of guilt. Franklin and Hamilton didn't conceive of any of these and we have no right to innovate for them no matter how the world has changed.

One, I think you make a good point but I don't agree that this is an assumption of guilt. I think it is a way to create a secure market. Like building walls around your store before you put things inside. Sure those walls and doors may be there partially on the assumption that people would rob you blind if you just stacked it all by the street, but... people WOULD rob you blind if you did that. Your participation in the market is optional, but you can't defame a store just because it has walls and security.

The essence of Common Law is that it follows Common Sense.
Edited by RobRedbeard - 5/24/08 at 7:06pm
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<quote>I don't need to have an emotional experience and start crying because Alyx's dad got whacked by a giant grub... I want to shoot and kill things, lots of things.</quote>



Heh.

As much of a HL fan that I am, that really is funny.


Sorry about the <quote> crap.

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<quote>I don't need to have an emotional experience and start crying because Alyx's dad got whacked by a giant grub... I want to shoot and kill things, lots of things.</quote>



Heh.

As much of a HL fan that I am, that really is funny.


Sorry about the <quote> crap.

Not entirely sure how to quote a piece of a reply correctly.

I'll figure it out eventually.
It's easy!

Use [] not <>

You can also use (without spaces) [ quote=membername;postnumber][ /quote] for a linkback to that post, or just to show who said it.
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Sorry about the <quote> crap.

Not entirely sure how to quote a piece of a reply correctly.

I'll figure it out eventually.
Change your angle brackets to squared brackeds and you'll have it. I.e., it's [quote], not <quote>.
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Exactly, and this is why the X360 protection is actually a success even though it's been cracked: it's just not as easy as it used to be with the old XBox, PS2, or PS1. It has reached a difficulty level that will turn most "casual pirates" away.
Thank you, thats exactly what I've been trying to say.

If I could Rep you, I would.

I really hope that what this chip does is exactly that... Turn the casual pirates away.

However, if it did end up spying on me, I would be against that, but I don't think thats what it does.
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Thank you MootsFox, I appreciate it.
    
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Eh, aren't CD keys already a good way to prevent piracy?
Why yes, except for the thousands of results of this query for Crysis:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...=Google+Search

and

This query for Bioshock
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&s...ck&btnG=Search

and

This query for COD4
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&s...D4&btnG=Search


Pretty much, just type cd+key+generator+<insert game title here> into google. You'll get whatever you want.

You tell me, are cd keys enough?
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Well the problem with CD keys is that they are not tied to any one computer, but rather work for any copy of the game, on any computer.

A system like Steam works very well, while still allowing people with old mindsets like myself have their CD/DVDs and boxes.
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True, but if people are forced to hard mod their PCs(Mobo) to play pirated games I bet the PC piracy rate will begin to mimic the console piracy rate... They aren't wasting their time they're evolving and developing a stronger anti-piracy protection. If this is remotely successful and requires any kind of hard mod 95% of pirates(the majority of pirates are quite stupid and not 1337 haxxors) will not have the skill set to play pirated games... I can only hope if this is implemented that those with "older hardware" are grandfathered in and can at least play new games so long as their hardware is capable.
Then they'll go "Wait, there's about 3 people pirating this game, but we're still not selling games..." IT CAN'T BE BECAUSE THE GAME SUCKS CAN IT?


Nothing is uncrackable, it just depends on how much time it will take to crack it, The FBI servers for example, could be cracked, but since they'd change the security stuff every month or two, you wouldn't have enough time, that would be the only true way to crack it.
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if the chip is there, cant they just remove it and possibly replace it with a modded one or something that makes it think a chip is there?
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