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Not sure if this is the right place for this question but here goes anyway(if this is not, could someone direct me to the right place).
I'm a first time overclocker and have been gathering information for the last 2 weeks to gain a better understanding of what I'm in for. What I need right now is a confidence builder. What I mean is I would like to know the easist and quickest way to get a smallish overclock on my CPU to gain a little confidence before I try something more aggressive. The more detailed the instructions the better. My system specs are listed below. Thanks for all your help.

MB: ASUS P5N-E SLI
CPU: Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 2.4 MHz
Video: PNY NVIDIA GForce 8800 GT 512 MB
Mem: PNY PC2-6400 2048MB (2x 1024)
CPU Cooler: Zalman 9500A
OS: XP Home
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tbh i dont tink that board is going to go much past 2.7 ghz so you can really do much damage.
best thing to start with would be to set all voltages and other settings to auto.
set your ram to the timings requiered (should be on the side of the ram) and set the to the correct voltage (again on the side)
then increase you FSB by 5 mhz at a time. then test with orthos for 15-30 min.
once you fail orthos try going up another 20 mhz past the fsb wall. if you fail again go back to your last stable setting.
you can the either stick with this or increase the vcore voltage on notch and see if you can go up anymore with the fsb.
you can continue doing this but dont exeed 1.5v

see how far that gets you then post again
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tbh i dont tink that board is going to go much past 2.7 ghz so you can really do much damage.
best thing to start with would be to set all voltages and other settings to auto.
set your ram to the timings requiered (should be on the side of the ram) and set the to the correct voltage (again on the side)
then increase you FSB by 5 mhz at a time. then test with orthos for 15-30 min.
once you fail orthos try going up another 20 mhz past the fsb wall. if you fail again go back to your last stable setting.
you can the either stick with this or increase the vcore voltage on notch and see if you can go up anymore with the fsb.
you can continue doing this but dont exeed 1.5v

see how far that gets you then post again

This is all correct. If you want the quickest and easiest, just bump up your fsb 5 mhz at a time. Leave everything at stock settings, just bump up the fsb. You should be able to get a little overclock without having to do anything else.

Edit: some guys have been able to get to 3.0 without doing anything but bumping the fsb, but it's going to depend on your board.
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i had the p5n32 sli and it would not no matter how hard i tried go past 2.7. no amount of voltage tweaking would help. lucly it died fairly soon after i bought it and i was allowed to upgrade (CCL computers FTW)
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need a little clarification on some things. It may sound a little stupid to all you extreem OC's. When I'm told about changing my FSB value by small increments (5-15MHz), is this the CPU FSB value that I'm changing? When I'm looking at the value in my BIOS it says it's 1066 under FSB (QDR). Am I increasing this value by the small amounts, or is their another value that I should be changing. I've seen responses back saying a FSB of 335 along with the stock multiplier of 9 should give me a 3.0 CPU clock speed. When I'm seeing the 1066 in my FSB (QDR), I dont't know where this 335 value is coming from. Can I get some clarification. I did follow the suggestion of bumping my FSB by 15MHz to 1081 and got a boot failure. Am I doing something wrong?
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the setting "335" is the value, the frequency your seeing is the "1066",
if i understand what your saying
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If I need to set the 335 as my value do I ignore the 1066, where is that done, at the FSB (QDR) where I see the 1066, or somewhere else?
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If I need to set the 335 as my value do I ignore the 1066, where is that done, at the FSB (QDR) where I see the 1066, or somewhere else?
The 1066 that you are seeing in the motherboard BIOS is the FSB. With regards to FSB on Intel systems there are two ways of looking at it. If someone's default QDR FSB is 1066, then their CPU's FSB is 1066 / 4, or 266. If the default QDR FSB is 1333 then the CPU's default FSB is 1333 / 4, or 333.

Different motherboards use either the QDR FSB, or the CPU FSB to change the FSB. In your case to hit 3.0Ghz with a Q6600 you'll need to change the QDR FSB from 1066 (1066 / 4 * 9 = 2.4Ghz) to 1333 (1333 / 4 * 9 = 3.0Ghz). As far as the system is concerned, when you raise the FSB, both the internal FSB of the CPU and the main QDR FSB are raised simultaneously.

Be sure to visit Asus's support homepage in order to obtain the latest BIOS for your motherboard as it offers the best clocking potential for Core 2 Quads. There is a handy tool in your motherboard's BIOS called EZFlash, which allows you to flash your motherboard wih the latest BIOS file from a USB flash drive.

Once you have the latest BIOS it should be a simple case of setting the FSB to 1333 and also raise the CPU voltage to 1.4v, but no higher for now. Also raise the VTT voltage to 1.55v. Once you've done that simply stress test with Prime, or two instances of Orthos.
Edited by t4ct1c47 - 5/24/08 at 1:35pm
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dont be scared , worste case scenario your pc wont boot.....
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Originally Posted by porky View Post
dont be scared , worste case scenario your pc wont boot.....
So long as he's careful with the voltages, then yes.

If it doesn't boot, simply reset CMOS (where your BIOS settings are stored. along with the time&date) by removing the battery and leaving it for a few minutes.
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