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post #11 of 83
if it turns out to be true true that will make me wanna cry...

im eagerly awaiting these cards .... i do like nvidia it will be a shame if the new ATI cards crush these ones ..

i will have to convert
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post #12 of 83
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The 280 has 240 stream processors and runs at a clock of 602MHz, a massive miss on what the firm intended. The processor clock runs at 1296MHz and the memory is at 1107MHz. The high-end part has 1G of GDDR3 at 512b width. This means that they are pretty much stuck offering 1G cards, not a great design choice here.
Stream processors running @ 602Mhz
Core clock running @ 1296Mhz



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The smaller brother, aka low-yield, salvage part, the GTX260 is basically the same chips with 192 SPs and 896M GDDR3. If you are maths-impaired, let me point out that this equates to 24 ROPs.
I though it had 28ROPs? I believe Nvidia's ROPs are linked to the memory controller -> 448b/64TMU = 7 clusters of 4 ROPs -> 28

-EDIT- Another mistake

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The clocks are 576MHz GPU, 999MHz memory and 896MHz GDDR3 on a 448b memory interface. The power is fed by two six-pin connectors. Power consumption for this 10.5-inch board is 182W.
Damn thinquirer sucks...
Edited by MasterKromm - 5/24/08 at 1:08pm
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The inquirer is right much of the time. I fully expect the G200 core to not be all it's cracked up to be, in its first incarnation.
    
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post #14 of 83
If this turns out to be true (Im not holding my breath) this won't help Forbes company of the year recovering stock prices after its big slump in the middle of April. Also Nvidia has at least had yield problems with the G92 according to this more reputable link.
http://blogs.barrons.com/techtraderd...-on-mfg-yield/
Edited by Somenoob - 5/24/08 at 12:19pm
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post #15 of 83
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This may look good on paper, but the die is over 550mm, 576 according to Theo, on the usual TSMC 65nm process.


Am I a n00b or does that seem really big? I don't know how big a GPU die is supposed to be, but going on the fact that CPU dies are 65 and even 45 nm I couldn't imagine a GPU die really being 10,000 times that size.

EDIT: Nevermind. Just read the link they gave and it said they'd use 65nm. My mistake.
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NVIDIA STAGED ITS regular editors' day, and once again, we were not invited. [...]

With the usual flair of spin and statistics which almost no one questions for fear of being cut off, NV talked about two new GPUs, the GTX280 and GTX260. [...]

The phrase 'hypocritical worms' come to mind, especially since it was on their roadmap at the time. [...]
I think an nvidia exec touched charlie when he was a kid
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post #17 of 83
seems a bit biased....
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post #18 of 83
Wow, they could have at least tried to not be biased. As it stands I really can't believe any of it. The only thing I think they got accurately was the pricing and the die size since they both seem to fall in line with expectations.
post #19 of 83
This article does seem really biased, and it sounds like the reviewer doesn't really like nvidia at all (probably because they weren't invited to the event lol)... But if you think about it, most of the things he says make sense (except for the typos)

with the GPU dies themselves costing around $120 (last i heard) and the 512bit bus adding more traces, and more layers to the PCB plus the crazy heatsinks these are going to need... I dont see the GTX280 being much cheaper than $600 at launch
Also, with the immense heat output of these things, I don't see them clocking much higher than the 602mhz stated

Considering ATI's 4870X2 has an estimated price of around $450, which the same as the GTX 260... I think AMD may have won the price/performance war for this summer
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post #20 of 83
What a load of rude word rubbish. If they want me to actually believe a shred of what they're "reporting" is true, they should try not talking down to me and treating my like I'm a child.

Maths-impaired? Just because I don't study every detail of a graphics card, doesn't mean I'm "maths-impaired". They should see some of the stuff I've had to do this year. Ignorant condescending another rude word idiots.

Getting back to the topic though. That article was completely biased and a complete pack of lies. You only have to look at MasterKromm's post to see there blatant and stupid mistakes. They have the audacity to call myself, and everyone else maths-impaired and they can't even get their maths right.

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Edited by voice - 5/24/08 at 1:46pm
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