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I plan on going ATI as so far there performance and price seem pristine. This article sounds biased though and while it could be true (some parts just may be) I would wait rather then believe atm. Though even though they seem upset, I am sure it is not all hogwash.

In essence though it boils down to more like an upset kid with a tire iron up the buttocks then a rational reviewer.
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Well this is what most likely is going to happen.Nvidia said that they are planning a die shrink to 55nm for the GT200 some time in the future.This will allow for higher clocks, lower power consumption,smaller die size,less heat output etc.This is a killer card in the making, i guess we'll just have to wait for the G92 version of the GT200 loool.The stream processors will more then make up for the lower clock speeds.The ATI cards will not beat the GT200,the 4870x2 will have a chance but it really depends on how much ATI have imrpoved their architecture which doesn't seem like much from what i've been reading; that it has 480sp's and GDDR5 which is just a marketing trick.But the GDDR5 has allowed ATI to not use 512bit by using faster memory.

I'll upgrade to the GT200 if it beats the 9800GX2 by a fair margin lets say 25%+.The GX2's problem is that it has slowdowns due to using SLI which is noticeable in games like Crysis as it doesn't seem that smooth.

I won't believe none of the inquierer bull****, its going to be faster then the 9800GX2 for sure we'll just have to wait and see how it performs .
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What a load of rude word rubbish. If they want me to actually believe a shred of what they're "reporting" is true, they should try not talking down to me and treating my like I'm a child.

Maths-impaired? Just because I don't study every detail of a graphics card, doesn't mean I'm "maths-impaired". They should see some of the stuff I've had to do this year. Ignorant condescending another rude word idiots.

Getting back to the topic though. That article was completely biased and a complete pack of lies. You only have to look at MasterKromm's post to see there blatant and stupid mistakes. They have the audacity to call myself, and everyone else maths-impaired and they can't even get their maths right.

Inquirer - 0
The "Maths-impaired" - 1

They never called you or anyone else "maths-impaired" they simply said IF you are "maths-impaired" then they would do the math (poorly) for you

They aren't condescending the reader in any way, they are just criticizing nvidia.

I think you're holding your 8800gt too closely to your heart...
Edited by HugeDink - 5/24/08 at 1:55pm
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Honestly I can't say I trust the truthfulness of this article...LOL. theINQUIRER.net????? Since when did they become the authority in hardware reviewing???
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They never called you or anyone else "maths-impaired" they simply said IF you are "maths-impaired" then they would do the math (poorly) for you

They aren't condescending the reader in any way, they are just criticizing nvidia.

I think you are holding your 8800gt too closely to your heart...
Yes, they being condescending toward the reader. And no, I'm not "holding my 8800gt to closely to my heart". I'm sick of the inquirer's BS. Still, if you really believe I'm an Nvidia fanboy, then go lookup some of my posts.

This one should get you started:
http://www.overclock.net/hardware-ne...ml#post3887437


EDIT: You were right, I did overreact. However, I still think they are being condesending though.
Edited by voice - 5/24/08 at 2:03pm
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Stopped reading after

"The phrase 'hypocritical worms' come to mind, especially since it was on their roadmap at the time. "

Is the supposed to be an op ed or something?
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post #27 of 83
People are getting so fired up over this.

All you can take home from this is that the new cards won't be cheap. One source [the INQ is half a source] is not enough to make me believe the pricing scheme.
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Am I a n00b or does that seem really big? I don't know how big a GPU die is supposed to be, but going on the fact that CPU dies are 65 and even 45 nm I couldn't imagine a GPU die really being 10,000 times that size.

EDIT: Nevermind. Just read the link they gave and it said they'd use 65nm. My mistake.
Die size is the actual size of the chip's transistors. Process size is the thing you are thinking of, and it's the size of each transistor.

At 576mm^2, the die is 24mm by 24mm across, roughly the size of a postage stamp. In comparison, my HD3870 core is about 15mm by 15mm across, or 225mm^2, and uses a 55nm process.
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Am I a n00b or does that seem really big? I don't know how big a GPU die is supposed to be, but going on the fact that CPU dies are 65 and even 45 nm I couldn't imagine a GPU die really being 10,000 times that size.

EDIT: Nevermind. Just read the link they gave and it said they'd use 65nm. My mistake.
65nm is the manufacturing process used, completely different from the die size.
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Die size is the actual size of the chip's transistors. Process size is the thing you are thinking of, and it's the size of each transistor.

At 576mm^2, the die is 24mm by 24mm across, roughly the size of a postage stamp. In comparison, my HD3870 core is about 15mm by 15mm across, or 225mm^2, and uses a 65nm process.
good post, but the 3870 is on the 55nm process, not 65nm
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