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Analyst Opinion - Floating Point Operations Per Second - FLOPS - one of the more obscure processor performance indicators, and one of the oldest ones. Over time, it has been modified with prefixes such as M (mega), G (giga), T (tera) and will soon get a P (peta). “Tera” describes a million millions - one trillion (1012) - which is a whole lot of anything whether it is cycles (Hertz), bytes, dollars, or FLOPS.

Recently I was asked how many TFLOPS are in all the game consoles shipped to date. There are two answers to that question. You can look at it from the perspective of all the game consoles built and you can look at this question with specific consoles in mind.

Let’s look at the combined TFLOPS rating of all game consoles, which actually provides two answers as well.

If you count central processor FLOPS then you have one answer and if you count the FLOPS potential of the GPU and add it to the CPU’s FLOPS, then you have the second answer. This second version is controversial since the FLOPS of the GPU aren’t used in computations and some therefore claim that the GPU should not be counted as it simply represents a theoretical number. Others argue that GPUs are used in computation - the computation of shader operations. Both sides, however, agree that there isn’t yet a benchmark that can measure this discipline. And therefore I conclude that we shouldn’t use them in evaluating the CPU FLOPS of game consoles.

The following table lists the FLOPS in consoles (CPU+GPU value added to provide perspective):



You can read this table in several ways:

1. All of the CPU consoles added up do not hit 1 TFLOPS.
2. All of the consoles added up do not exceed 2 TFLOPS even if you count GPUs and CPUs.
3. All consoles shipped to date add up to 7.4 EFLOPS (Exa FLOPS, 1018).

I went through this laborious pedantic and sure to be challenged essay for several reasons:

1. It’s raining here on Mt Tiburon, so I can’t go out and play.
2. I thought it was really interesting to look at how far consoles have progressed
3. I thought it was even more interesting to look at how far PC graphics have progressed – ATI and Nvidia are shipping TFLOPS add-in-boards (AIBs). The next-generation of GPUs coming out in June will be approaching 5 TFLOPS per AIB with dual-GPUs.

Just think of what the game developers and the movie studios can do with this kind of horsepower. Think of the shader operations that will be offered soon. Those of you who know me know Peddie’s first law – in computer graphics, too much is not enough. And although I haven’t made it a law yet, if I did (it would be number three), I’m fond of saying – don’t just watch a movie, be in the movie.

That’s where we are heading to with all these tera and peta FLOPS and I can’t wait to get there, because the next stop after this one is the holodeck.
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I thought the XBOX360 had a better GPU compared to the PS3, then how does the PS3 perform better in GPU?
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i think it counts most of the PS3's cpus as its gpus
    
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Armadi110 View Post
i think it counts most of the PS3's cpus as its gpus
It must, because there is no way a GPU based on the 7800GTX has that power compared to the cell.
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It must, because there is no way a GPU based on the 7800GTX has that power compared to the cell.
And now we finally have a little proof of that.
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I like how they included the Dreamcast. Brought back fond memories.
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I think there's a typo there... I'm pretty sure the PS3's GPU can't put out 1.8 Tflops
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Lies. Consoles are 1 flop. J/k
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PS3 owns everything
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Quote:
Originally Posted by alexgheseger View Post
I think there's a typo there... I'm pretty sure the PS3's GPU can't put out 1.8 Tflops
Agree. There is simply no way in hell that the PS3's GPU puts out that much horsepower. They have it listed as nine times more powerful than the Cell processor, which was designed specifically for this kind of stuff! No way in frickin hell.

I don't think anyone is surprised to see the Cell outperforming its peers, however.

Edit - Just realized that this is a duplicate post, by the way. The earlier post is here: http://www.overclock.net/video-game-...-consoles.html
Edited by VulcanDragon - 5/26/08 at 7:08am
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