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Hey remember guys, nVidia is poking around in the CPU market!
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if AMD drops out PPC will start edging x86.

microsoft isn't stupid and when faced with the potential of lost profits due to icnreased computer pricing and lowered demand for thier goods they will go elsewhere. For some reason I only see IBM as being all to willing to supply a few hundred million PPC CPUs a year.
You cant just edge into a technology you dont have rights to make.

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Originally Posted by ENTERPRISE View Post
If AMD drop out then Intel are also in trouble. Yes that is right. No Competition = slower progression which in turn = less buying.

Why would you upgrade your CPU if there is not much gain if any with a newer one !

As Chozart says. AMD would most likely be fine without the CPU market anyway. They have have there hands on the GPU market aswel..something that Intel has not got...well apart from the crappy onboard...but lets face it..that does not count.
Which in turn, means people wont be buying Intel? People have never really had too much of a choice up until now. Intel even with a monopoly couldnt raise prices too much because of the public backlashes.

Now, IBM.. What does IBM, or SUN have for competition over? Its a very overlooked section, thats Unix/Linux. Linux is getting easier and easier, and who's to say wont pick up alot of steam in the next few years. X86 or not, emulation is possible, and Linux runs on anything you want it to. Point being, IBM could appear in home PC's again, and Apple can switch between Intel and IBM at will (OSX works on both). Then theres VIA.. If AMD went out of business, then they just wouldnt be an independent company anymore. they would get bought out. And if VIA ever wanted to get into more mainstream stuff, then VIA could buy sections of AMD.

In any case, AMD is doing their best to cut costs, such as outsourcing their FAB work to TSMC, which has been making gpu's for Nvidia and ATI for years, along with cutbacks in employee's.
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post #23 of 61
I do hope AMD is not going to stop making CPUs...
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I've been looking at different sources for the AMD roadmap for H2 2008, they've got some great stuff coming. Personally I think that if, the FX chips and the 45nm variants of the phenom come out on time and get some decent performance and bang for the buck against Intel, we should see a fast comeback.
The 45nm should overclock noticeably better due to less leakage current and less heat.
This will depend on how well the process is designed and how well their implementation of the 45nm lithography performs. Lets hope they use ASML litho scanners!
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They usually force the company to break up into smaller companies, because they think that will stop the monopoly. What usually happens though is you just end up with several big monopolies instead of one big one. An example of this would be the Baby Bell situation, when AT&T was broken up because they had a monopoly, and it was thought that breaking it up into smaller companies would create more competition.
This is a "Technical monopoly", thus nothing would be done as the cost of entry is too high.

I don't think much will change, the progess might slow a little, but thats it.

Why would Microsoft make an almost entirely new OS for RISC CPU's? They have no reason to, and if Intel were to take over, they would have even less of a reason (especially with Atom).

AMD's roadmap looks interesting, however I can publish a pretty roadmap saying I will make some nice 22 nm 16 core CPU's in my sisters Easybake oven, and it won't necessarily happen.
    
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If AMD drop out then Intel are also in trouble. Yes that is right. No Competition = slower progression which in turn = less buying.

Why would you upgrade your CPU if there is not much gain if any with a newer one !

As Chozart says. AMD would most likely be fine without the CPU market anyway. They have have there hands on the GPU market aswel..something that Intel has not got...well apart from the crappy onboard...but lets face it..that does not count.
A difference between actual gain and perceived gain. They will throw nonsense marketing slogans on their chips and people will buy them.
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post #27 of 61
intel won't let amd die. they'll just sink a bunch of cash into them like MS did with apple.
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The also make most of the CPU's that think for our spacecraft...
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This is a "Technical monopoly", thus nothing would be done as the cost of entry is too high.

I don't think much will change, the progess might slow a little, but thats it.

Why would Microsoft make an almost entirely new OS for RISC CPU's? They have no reason to, and if Intel were to take over, they would have even less of a reason (especially with Atom).

AMD's roadmap looks interesting, however I can publish a pretty roadmap saying I will make some nice 22 nm 16 core CPU's in my sisters Easybake oven, and it won't necessarily happen.
They would just have to rewrite some of it, Apple did it with OSX, and their discs work on either PPC or Core 2 Mac's.
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Whats the IPC rate of a PPC processor?
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