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Originally Posted by noldevin View Post
None of us are being affected by this, unless you count higher software prices NOT because they are losing money to less sales, but because they are pouring so much more into stopping piracy with no positive effects. Companies don't realise, pirates are people who can't or won't pay for their product. Whether they are able to continue pirating or not, they still WILL NOT buy the product. Companies can spend all the money they want on anti-piracy. They won't ever get a dime of it back.
I fully agree with that, but at the same time we cannot guarantee that will be the outcome. Even if they get 5% of the pirates to buy the media they will have made enough to cover the efforts of stopping it.

If someone was breaking into your house and they had a gun. Would you hide and let them take your stuff purely because the probability of getting ti back is slim?

And i am not talking a $500 TV, i am talking something with real sentimental value to you.

For these guys this is their life, a lot of companies are really suffering right now because of piracy....and other reasons of course. If that was your life being stolen would you really stand there and let it continue regardless of the outcome?

Although i do fully agree, non of these tactics are working. They are just turning the consumer into pirates and adding to the problem.
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I may have come across wrongly in my wording, but I do agree with stopping pirates. Software sometimes takes many years of hard work to create, and they should get the money they deserve. However, I also strongly believe that no anti-piracy method should EVER affect the experiences of legitimate users. Ever.

I also believe that software such as Microsoft Office (which anyone in highschool/college needs) and things like 3d Studios (needed for almost any video game mod) should not be so damn expensive, or offer a cheaper but slightly cut down alternative. That's why people pirate expensive software. However, I think in this case, more money is lost to open source/free alternatives than to piracy.
Edited by noldevin - 5/26/08 at 12:32pm
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I may have come across wrongly in my wording, but I do agree with stopping pirates. Software sometimes takes many years of hard work to create, and they should get the money they deserve. However, I also strongly believe that no anti-piracy method should EVER affect the experiences of legitimate users. Ever.

I also believe that software such as Microsoft Office (which anyone in highschool/college needs) and things like 3d Studios (needed for almost any video game mod) should not be so damn expensive, or offer a cheaper but slightly cut down alternative. That's why people pirate expensive software. However, I think in this case, more money is lost to open source/free alternatives than to piracy.
We agree on something then

I agree with the Microsoft office thing. There really is no need for the pricing. And i fully understand why such a thing will have a high piracy rating, I'm not saying i support it.

But yes, i welcome the introduction of Linux into the education system. In time Linux applications will most probably not be free, but at least they will be affordable. Something like that could greatly help the education system.
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Pirate sites are great if you use them responsibly. If you just leech and leech and leech and never support developers then YOU SUCK, but if you just download the occasional film or game to try it out then I can't see what's wrong with that. What I see wrong is certain people's holier-than-thou attitude.......
    
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Ok, now it looks like the arguments are reaching a mature level.

To recap:

1. Piracy is wrong

2. Anti-piracy methods that affect legit users is wrong

3. Violating anyones rights for any reason is wrong

I think we are all in agreement more or less.
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Viking is the old english word for pirate.
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Viking is the old english word for pirate.
I was wondering why one if the sites is called The Viking Bay. Rep +, I never knew that.
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Viking is the old english word for pirate.
Incorrect.

It comes from the word "vik" which means a creek or narrow river, since Vikings were known for sailing along rivers to attack settlements, as no one else could attack that way at the time.

Viking was more often than not used as a verb, "the vikings" is a mis-use as they were norse, only the ones on a pillaging trip were refered to as vikings and only because they had gone a viking.
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I disagree that piracy is 'Wrong'. It is only wrong if you do nothing else and never reward the developers. We are getting the holier than thou thing again aren't we.....
    
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